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mcjweller Samba Member
Joined: October 05, 2022 Posts: 58 Location: Kitchener Ontario Canada
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Posted: Mon May 19, 2025 8:00 am Post subject: Oil strainer won't fit on Brazilian pickup |
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Hello,
Building a 1776 motor starting with a brand new Autolinea AS41 dual relief case. I'm reusing oil strainer and cover as they were new. I assume the strainer was a "universal" fit as it has a spring loaded screen.
The old case was a 1970 dual relief case. Oil strainer fits it well. On the new case, there is a "bulge" inside the pickup (see photo with red circled area, compared to the 1970 case (no bulge) which prevents the strainer from sitting and makes it proud about 3/16" from the case. Also, the pickup tube itself ends 10mm from the bottom edge of the case, it was 12mm on the old one (meaning if the strainer could sit down, there would be almost no gap at all between the end of the tube and the bottom of the strainer.
Despite the screen being spring loaded, the "tower" the screen and the spring ride on is not. Its is a fixed height and interferes.
Clearly, a different strainer is needed. As there are a few variations, any suggestions?
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SGKent  Samba Member

Joined: October 30, 2007 Posts: 42383 Location: at the beach
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Posted: Mon May 19, 2025 10:46 am Post subject: Re: Oil strainer won't fit on Brazilian pickup |
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I've seen strainers that are poorly made and too tall _________________ "Most people don't know what they're doing, and a lot of them are really good at it." - George Carlin |
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jeffrey8164 Samba Member

Joined: January 06, 2018 Posts: 4141 Location: Georgia
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Posted: Mon May 19, 2025 1:50 pm Post subject: Re: Oil strainer won't fit on Brazilian pickup |
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The Brazilian pick up tubes are notorious for being poorly made and mis-aligned.
Do you still have your old OG one? If so, I’d use it. _________________ Volkswagen!
Turning owners into mechanics since 1938.
“Let he that is without oil throw the first rod”
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Glenn  Mr. 010

Joined: December 25, 2001 Posts: 79424 Location: Sneaking up behind you
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Posted: Mon May 19, 2025 2:15 pm Post subject: Re: Oil strainer won't fit on Brazilian pickup |
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jeffrey8164 wrote: |
The Brazilian pick up tubes are notorious for being poorly made and mis-aligned.
Do you still have your old OG one? If so, I’d use it. |
It's a bit late since the case is sealed. _________________ Glenn
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mcjweller Samba Member
Joined: October 05, 2022 Posts: 58 Location: Kitchener Ontario Canada
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Posted: Mon May 19, 2025 3:10 pm Post subject: Re: Oil strainer won't fit on Brazilian pickup |
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Yep..case is sealed. BUT, I'm not above ripping it all apart again if needed.
Option two could be to modify the screen to accommodate that raised area...if possible.
I wish I had a variety of screens, I would check them for height and see if there are variances. My guess is that there are, but without knowing them it would be hard to know what other screen to buy.
We're talking about 3/16" of an inch at the end of the day...but enough that the screen will not sit on the gasket surface (not even if you try to force it...which is usually a bad idea). |
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Glenn  Mr. 010

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Posted: Mon May 19, 2025 3:11 pm Post subject: Re: Oil strainer won't fit on Brazilian pickup |
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You could not use the screen, many delete it, but I wouldn't. _________________ Glenn
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67rustavenger Samba Member

Joined: February 24, 2015 Posts: 11002 Location: Oregon
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Posted: Mon May 19, 2025 4:44 pm Post subject: Re: Oil strainer won't fit on Brazilian pickup |
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Glenn wrote: |
You could not use the screen, many delete it, but I wouldn't. |
I agree.
This happened after an oil screen delete.
A chunk of head valve guide boss that collapsed, made it into the oil pump.
I'll never do that again! _________________ I have learned over the years.
Cheap parts are gonna disappoint you.
Buy Once, Cry Once!
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oprn Samba Member

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Posted: Tue May 20, 2025 5:34 am Post subject: Re: Oil strainer won't fit on Brazilian pickup |
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Unless you are 100% positive nothing in that engine will ever chip, crack or flake including the valve cover gaskets and nothing will never, ever drop in the oil filler hole when you add oil... use a screen! _________________ Our cars get old, we get old but driving an old VW never gets old! |
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slayer61 Samba Member

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Posted: Tue May 20, 2025 7:00 am Post subject: Re: Oil strainer won't fit on Brazilian pickup |
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Am I the only one that has seen a bent and mangled screen? _________________
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mcjweller Samba Member
Joined: October 05, 2022 Posts: 58 Location: Kitchener Ontario Canada
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Posted: Tue May 20, 2025 7:28 am Post subject: Re: Oil strainer won't fit on Brazilian pickup |
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Although I am running an external filter, running it without the screen is a non-starter for me for all the reasons others have listed.
So it looks like my options are:
re-split the case and swap the pickup for a stock VW unit (will require drilling and tapping the plug at the end of the pickup tube, and a full clean out & flush of the case to get rid of debris)
Find a "shorter" strainer that works...if they exist
Modify the top tower of a strainer to accommodate the irregularity causing the problem...and the screen would need to be indexed and
clocked for ever after in terms of installation.
I'm going to try modifying a screen and see where that gets me... |
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calvinater Samba Member

Joined: September 06, 2014 Posts: 3559 Location: 802 The Pointless Forrest
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Posted: Tue May 20, 2025 1:46 pm Post subject: Re: Oil strainer won't fit on Brazilian pickup |
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Always modify the least expensive part. _________________ "Albatross"! |
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mcjweller Samba Member
Joined: October 05, 2022 Posts: 58 Location: Kitchener Ontario Canada
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Posted: Wed May 21, 2025 6:43 pm Post subject: Re: Oil strainer won't fit on Brazilian pickup |
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Well, I made an executive decision (well, 2 actually...)
1st, I decided to unseal the case, clean it up and start over. Several reasons, I wasn't 100% happy with how it was going. I learned a long time ago if the build isn't going right, stop, backup and reassess.
But that freed up the 2nd decision, which was to yank that Brazil/Autolinea pickup out of there and swap it with the OEM pickup from the old 1970 case.
I'm glad I did. Quality is night and day, the OEM is a larger diameter (it will flow more), and I will be able to run a strainer without any problems.
I took pics for anyone interested. Autolinea/Brazil on the left, VW OEM on the right.
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