Syncro owner puzzler question, SOLVED

crazyvwvanman · Last edited by crazyvwvanman on Sat Oct 05, 2013 9:27 pm; edited 1 time in total

Coming home at night I hit a long board with nails in my street, probably dropped during trash pickup earlier that day. Before I could identify the danger and stop , my front wheels hit it. My otherwise stock Syncro has 2 badly punctured front tires in size 215/70/16. I need to drive the Syncro 20 miles on a busy interstate to a tire shop. I don't have 2 spares of that size, only 1 spare. I still have the puny 205/70/14 wheels I took off. I have the normal tools any syncro guy should have. How do I solve this with the least amount of work using what I have and without any extra stress to the VC?

Mark

DAV!D · Posted: Sat Oct 05, 2013 2:32 pm Post subject:

Use fix a flat to get to the tire store. Just let them know you put it in the tires.

IdahoDoug · Posted: Sat Oct 05, 2013 2:41 pm Post subject:

Remove frt shaft, put two 14" on front n head to tire shop.
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insyncro · Posted: Sat Oct 05, 2013 2:41 pm Post subject:

I would swap in good wheels in the front, pull the driveshaft and away I would go to get the punctured tires fixed...or have a Buddy drive me and my wheels to a shop and leave the Syncro at home.

crazyvwvanman · Posted: Sat Oct 05, 2013 3:05 pm Post subject:

That could work if they weren't so badly punctured. The tires picked up the board and when the board hit on the front diff carrier the multiple nails ripped their way out of the tires. I tried my can of flat fix on the one that didn't seem as bad but it didn't hold. Easy to try though not the solution.

Mark

oldskewlsk8ter · Posted: Sat Oct 05, 2013 3:13 pm Post subject:

Did you try to plug the tires? I've had punctures bad enough I had to use 2 plugs tot get me on the road and to the tire store to get a proper patch.
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insyncro · Posted: Sat Oct 05, 2013 3:21 pm Post subject:

If the tires are radial type and punctured badly, the plugs will need to be put in from the inside, meaning the tires need to come off and if any inner damage is seen, the tech may advise you to purchase new tires and I concur.

chazz79 · Posted: Sat Oct 05, 2013 3:22 pm Post subject:

Park it on jack stands or just the wrong tires while you take the affected tires to a repair shop and have them fixed.
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oldskewlsk8ter · Posted: Sat Oct 05, 2013 3:38 pm Post subject:

crazyvwvanman · Posted: Sat Oct 05, 2013 3:45 pm Post subject:

Sure that could work. But I just got all my driveline vibrations resolved. I finally lock-tited the driveshaft bolts in and they are staying in. I'd rather pay for a tow than open that can of worms again. But I still won't need a tow to get it to the tire shop.

It is just a dumb puzzler, not real situation.

Mark

joseph928 · Posted: Sat Oct 05, 2013 4:47 pm Post subject: Syncro

Sounds like a good time to buy a decoupler , then put your stock wheels on the front. Very Happy

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insyncro · Posted: Sat Oct 05, 2013 4:59 pm Post subject: Re: Syncro

crazyvwvanman · Posted: Sat Oct 05, 2013 6:04 pm Post subject: Re: Syncro

Yes, decouplers are great and I already own 3 of them. But this puzzler Syncro is stock. That is part of the puzzle. Adding new equipment isn't in the answer.

But lets see, stock front 14 alloys came with 820 rev/mile tires. At 60 mph that is a mile per minute, so 820 front wheel revs per minute. Multiply by 4.86 for a stock front r&p ratio , gives front pinion shaft speed as 4000 per minute.

Rear tires of the puzzle van 215/70/16 about 745 rev/mile X 4.86 rear r&p ratio give rear pinion shaft speed at 60 mph of about 3600 rpm.

3600 rear, 4000 front, decoupler sees almost 400 rpm between input and output ends at 60 mph. I wonder how long the various versions will stand for that?

Mark

syncrodoka · Posted: Sat Oct 05, 2013 6:15 pm Post subject:

furrylittleotter · Posted: Sat Oct 05, 2013 6:21 pm Post subject: Re: Syncro

Phishman068 · Posted: Sat Oct 05, 2013 6:24 pm Post subject:

Nah dude.
It's time for a bush fix, and you have all you need.

Pop out the Prop shaft.
Just take that sucker out. It's easy.

Now stick two front tires on it, whatever the heck they are (Nope, doesn't matter, ideally they're the same on both sides but again, doesn't "really" matter, and you have a matched set).

Drive it there, with the busted tires in hand.

If however you have a good working vehicle or ride to the tire shop, Take the wheels/tires to the tire shop. Easy.

If you really need to patch the tires from the inside (Which by the way, would be the "proper" fix, and is a FIX, but PATCHING it from the outside would work. As would a bottle of SLIME) just take the tire off.
Don't know how to take the tire off?
Get two big screw drivers. And I mean BIG!
Heck, a set of pry bars would be way better.....
And a good friend. Bring a 6 pack (5 packs are okay, you get a reward for planning right?).
Now do some google searching.

Basically, you deflate the tire, you stick a pry bar in and pull up, then you stick another in and start working it around. You pop one bead off, then the other.
It's physical, but not technically "hard".
Plug it.
Stick it on.
Fill it up.
Run out of beer.
Take it there tomorrow (whenever the next "tomorrow" is.)

This plan only works if your planning on REPLACING the two front tires. If not, well, this is all they're going to do anyway.....so either do it yourself and be happy, or carry your rims/tires there.

Have any tubes sitting around?
Tubes, though hard to find for modern tire sizes (especially with the proper valve stem) are awesome for a situation like this.
I carry a tube in my syncro (along with two big screw drivers and a 5 pack) for this reason.
It will get you home when nothing else will.
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Kburns737 · Posted: Sat Oct 05, 2013 6:41 pm Post subject:

Isn't this a puzzle guys? Quit trying to take the driveshaft out Laughing

The point is a clever solution, not the most obvious one. Not that I have a clue, how about putting the two front 14" tires on and deflating the rears til they're all even, obviously you wouldn't want to let out enough air to possibly ruin the tires while driving but who knows maybe you don't have to let that much out to get it close enough. C'mon people, ets hear all the real hairbrained ideas! Twisted Evil

syncrodoka · Posted: Sat Oct 05, 2013 6:48 pm Post subject:

snowsyncro · Posted: Sat Oct 05, 2013 6:57 pm Post subject:

Put one of your old wheels on the front, and one on the back. Put one of your remaining two good new wheels (or the spare you have) on the front. Drive to the tire repair place.

Easy peasey.

RonC

crazyvwvanman · Posted: Sat Oct 05, 2013 7:02 pm Post subject:

Ding ding ding, we have a winner!

Mark


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