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my70squareback Samba Member
Joined: August 21, 2022 Posts: 2 Location: Chicago
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Posted: Tue Sep 13, 2022 7:24 am Post subject: Trans cooler |
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I have a 1970 squareback with automatic trans and wanted to know if the oversized oil cooler in the front of the car was a stock item? It's located behind
where the spare tire goes. Any info would be appreciated! |
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tmitoraj Samba Member
Joined: May 10, 2007 Posts: 177
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Posted: Tue Sep 13, 2022 8:36 am Post subject: Re: Trans cooler |
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I have a 71 fastback AT and there is no radiator or cooler of anykind up from |
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VWporscheGT3 Samba Member
Joined: September 01, 2006 Posts: 2076 Location: Gardnerville, NV
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Posted: Tue Sep 13, 2022 8:46 am Post subject: Re: Trans cooler |
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my70squareback wrote: |
I have a 1970 squareback with automatic trans and wanted to know if the oversized oil cooler in the front of the car was a stock item? It's located behind
where the spare tire goes. Any info would be appreciated! |
sounds like a AC condensor to me, never was a trans cooler _________________ Schnell, SCHNELL!
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my70squareback Samba Member
Joined: August 21, 2022 Posts: 2 Location: Chicago
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Posted: Tue Sep 13, 2022 9:15 am Post subject: Re: Trans cooler |
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Thanks for responding. It actually appears to be original because it has a shroud
that's attached to the body. I snap some pics. |
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KTPhil Samba Member
Joined: April 06, 2006 Posts: 34009 Location: Conejo Valley, CA
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Posted: Tue Sep 13, 2022 10:13 am Post subject: Re: Trans cooler |
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Agree, sounds like an A/C condenser.
If by "original" you mean "factory", then no. Dealers installed A/C according to VWOA instructions, but there were still many variations.
There was a "transmission cooler" of sorts by way of the fins on the torque converter housing.
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Multi69s Samba Member
Joined: January 24, 2006 Posts: 5364 Location: Lefty, CA
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sjbartnik Samba Member
Joined: September 01, 2011 Posts: 5998 Location: Brooklyn
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Posted: Tue Sep 13, 2022 3:06 pm Post subject: Re: Trans cooler |
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my70squareback wrote: |
Thanks for responding. It actually appears to be original because it has a shroud
that's attached to the body. I snap some pics. |
It's not. As stated above, VW never equipped these cars with remote transmission or engine oil coolers. No, your car is not the one exception
There were a couple US-based aftermarket companies back in the day that did make air conditioning kits specifically for VWs which were sold through the VW accessory parts system (part number starts with ZVW) and could be dealer-installed. Likely that is what you have.
VW never factory-installed air conditioning on the air-cooled cars. _________________ 1965 Volkswagen 1500 Variant S
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KTPhil Samba Member
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Bobnotch Samba Member
Joined: July 06, 2003 Posts: 22422 Location: Kimball, Mi
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Posted: Wed Sep 14, 2022 12:34 pm Post subject: Re: Trans cooler |
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I've never seen the scoop, but I have seen an electric fan mounted behind the condenser. My old 70 Square from Texas had one mounted behind the spare tire well. Unfortunately most of the rest of the AC parts were removed. _________________ Bob 65 Notch S with Sunroof
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Multi69s Samba Member
Joined: January 24, 2006 Posts: 5364 Location: Lefty, CA
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Posted: Wed Sep 14, 2022 1:00 pm Post subject: Re: Trans cooler |
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Bobnotch wrote: |
I've never seen the scoop, but I have seen an electric fan mounted behind the condenser. My old 70 Square from Texas had one mounted behind the spare tire well. Unfortunately most of the rest of the AC parts were removed. |
That's the what usually happens, and the worst part of it is that the internal unit with the evaporator, is the only part of the whole system that will really works well with 134a Freon. If you have that, you could get the compressor from Gilmore Enterprises, then rig up the rest by yourself cheap. Mine blows 40 degrees even when the outside temps are in the triple digits. _________________ 69 road Bug 2110
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Bobnotch Samba Member
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Posted: Wed Sep 14, 2022 1:34 pm Post subject: Re: Trans cooler |
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Yeah, that part was gone too. The under car lines were still there, as was the York compressor, but everything else was gone. Going thru the paperwork that came with the car, the engine had been replaced twice at the dealership, due to overheating. The engine had a bad rod knock when I got it running, before I pulled it, and went thru it. _________________ Bob 65 Notch S with Sunroof
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Multi69s Samba Member
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