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Pcrog027 Samba Member
Joined: January 17, 2011 Posts: 98 Location: Berks County, Pa
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Posted: Thu Nov 21, 2013 4:44 am Post subject: Pressure relief valve tool? |
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I have what appears to be a leaky pressure relief valve. I'm trying to tighten it but don't have a flathead big enough or any tool proper to tighten or back off the plug. What do you guys use for this job? |
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murdoch44 Samba Member
Joined: January 06, 2004 Posts: 62
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Posted: Thu Nov 21, 2013 5:25 am Post subject: |
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I took an inexpensive wood chisel and ground the end flat and the sides in so it would fit the slotted head. Then used an adjustable wrench to tighten/ loosen. At some point I'll weld it to an old socket, which will make things even easier. |
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bignick Samba Member
Joined: July 31, 2006 Posts: 299 Location: Chattanooga, TN
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Posted: Thu Nov 21, 2013 8:11 am Post subject: |
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look for brake adjusting tools. They look like a small funny shaped crowbar. Find one that has a flat end on it about the same size and give it hell. They are usually the right size with a right angle bend for added leverage. Its all I've ever used. _________________ '69 bug (Bonnie)
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79SuperVert Samba Member
Joined: May 31, 2002 Posts: 9758 Location: Elizabeth, NJ & La Isla Del Encanto
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Posted: Thu Nov 21, 2013 8:20 am Post subject: |
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CIP1 and Drivewerks sell this kind of tool, but I've never used one:
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busdaddy Samba Member
Joined: February 12, 2004 Posts: 51149 Location: Surrey B.C. Canada, but thinking of Ukraine
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Posted: Thu Nov 21, 2013 8:29 am Post subject: |
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That's handy for extracting a stuck plunger but the OP is after the giant slot screwdriver required to remove the cap.
I reground a cheapo large cold chisel from Harbor freight, notice the bottom of the slot in the plug is radiused as well so shape the tip of whatever you use to fit. _________________ Rust NEVER sleeps and stock never goes out of style.
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SGKent Samba Member
Joined: October 30, 2007 Posts: 41031 Location: Citrus Heights CA (Near Sacramento)
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Posted: Thu Nov 21, 2013 8:33 am Post subject: |
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make sure you use a new copper crush ring when you put it back on. |
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Glenn Mr. 010
Joined: December 25, 2001 Posts: 76938 Location: Sneaking up behind you
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79SuperVert Samba Member
Joined: May 31, 2002 Posts: 9758 Location: Elizabeth, NJ & La Isla Del Encanto
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Posted: Thu Nov 21, 2013 1:33 pm Post subject: |
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busdaddy wrote: |
That's handy for extracting a stuck plunger but the OP is after the giant slot screwdriver required to remove the cap. |
Ah, yes, it would help if I read the post carefully. _________________ Central Jersey VW Society
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kreemoweet Samba Member
Joined: March 13, 2008 Posts: 3899 Location: Seattle, WA
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Posted: Thu Nov 21, 2013 6:22 pm Post subject: |
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Why would VW design such a part? Who the hell has a "drag link socket" in their toolbox, anyway? Was that a European thing? _________________ '67 bug: seized by the authorities
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busdaddy Samba Member
Joined: February 12, 2004 Posts: 51149 Location: Surrey B.C. Canada, but thinking of Ukraine
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Posted: Thu Nov 21, 2013 7:19 pm Post subject: |
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Before modern cars with mass produced ball joints almost everything had ajustable ball and screw joints, later on (in the 50's I think) only the drag link still included that never really wears out because it's adjustable or repairable part.
As for the availability of the tool not only did most corner service stations have a drag link tool back then the dealers all had the full compliment of required VW specialty tools hanging on the shop wall. It's much like push in spouts for metal oil cans today, everyone had a few 30 years ago but try to get your hands on one today in a panic. _________________ Rust NEVER sleeps and stock never goes out of style.
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Desertbusman Samba Member
Joined: June 03, 2005 Posts: 14655 Location: Arizona
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Posted: Thu Nov 21, 2013 9:46 pm Post subject: |
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busdaddy wrote: |
Before modern cars with mass produced ball joints almost everything had ajustable ball and screw joints, later on (in the 50's I think) only the drag link still included that never really wears out because it's adjustable or repairable part. [ |
Thanks for the nostalgic reminder. I had totally forgotten about those. Come to think about it I don't remember ever having to buy any front end parts. _________________ 71 Superbug
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Wildthings Samba Member
Joined: March 13, 2005 Posts: 50351
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Posted: Fri Nov 22, 2013 12:57 am Post subject: |
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A sufficiently large flat washer from you local hardware store and some grinding will quickly make a tool that will fit the slot while a pair of vise-grips or other pliers will turn it. |
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Pcrog027 Samba Member
Joined: January 17, 2011 Posts: 98 Location: Berks County, Pa
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Posted: Fri Nov 22, 2013 5:51 pm Post subject: |
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This is all beautiful knowledge. So there is suppose to be a crush washer under this plug? |
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Desertbusman Samba Member
Joined: June 03, 2005 Posts: 14655 Location: Arizona
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Posted: Fri Nov 22, 2013 6:21 pm Post subject: |
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Pcrog027 wrote: |
This is all beautiful knowledge. So there is suppose to be a crush washer under this plug? |
Only if you don't want it to leak. Or if you don't want the spring effective length and spring pressure to control the valve like it is supposed to. Or if you like doing things contrary to your service manual. _________________ 71 Superbug
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highlandmurf Samba Member
Joined: April 08, 2010 Posts: 296 Location: Hudson Valley, NY
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Posted: Sat Nov 23, 2013 6:00 pm Post subject: |
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I believe Sears screwdrivers are still made square in section along their length, makes it easy to get a wrench on them.
The crush washers seem to be a hard to find item. I just reused my old one and put some Teflon tape on to take care of the drip. _________________ 1976 Westy Marigold Yellow
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WilliamA Samba Member
Joined: October 08, 2005 Posts: 447 Location: Spooner, Wi
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Posted: Mon Nov 25, 2013 4:24 pm Post subject: |
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Those of us who have both a drag link socket and a dwell meter in our toolboxes and know how to use them are technically called "old". lol. I use a drag link socket on the end of an impact driver for the job. The impact driver (the hammer type. Not to be confused with the gun type) also works well for the nut that holds the oil filler neck on. Both of these flat-tip nuts go by various names depending upon the amount of time spent getting them loose. The impact driver "almost" always works...
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busdaddy Samba Member
Joined: February 12, 2004 Posts: 51149 Location: Surrey B.C. Canada, but thinking of Ukraine
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Posted: Mon Nov 25, 2013 4:59 pm Post subject: |
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WilliamA wrote: |
Both of these flat-tip nuts go by various names depending upon the amount of time spent getting them loose. |
That's funny!
I don't own a drag link socket so I guess I'm not old! _________________ Rust NEVER sleeps and stock never goes out of style.
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Wildthings Samba Member
Joined: March 13, 2005 Posts: 50351
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Posted: Mon Nov 25, 2013 6:11 pm Post subject: |
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busdaddy wrote: |
WilliamA wrote: |
Both of these flat-tip nuts go by various names depending upon the amount of time spent getting them loose. |
That's funny!
I don't own a drag link socket so I guess I'm not old! |
They say the memory is the first thing to go. Maybe you should check that tool box again. |
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heimlich VWNOS.com
Joined: November 20, 2016 Posts: 6616 Location: Houston, Texas
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Posted: Sun May 21, 2017 8:16 pm Post subject: |
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Does anyone have another source for these? CB performance doesn't have any of the plugs. Jbugs has a hex head one but I like the internal Hex head that Glenn posted.
For the drag link tool, will any size drag link one fit?
I found this one on amazon with these dimensions:
3/8-inch Drive Drag Link Socket
11/16-inch Size
1/8-inch Tip width
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Wildthings Samba Member
Joined: March 13, 2005 Posts: 50351
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Posted: Sun May 21, 2017 8:53 pm Post subject: |
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kawfee wrote: |
I found this one on amazon with these dimensions:
3/8-inch Drive Drag Link Socket
11/16-inch Size
1/8-inch Tip width |
The tip width is what is important as it is the hardest to modify be grinding. |
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