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PostPosted: Thu Nov 21, 2013 4:44 am    Post subject: Pressure relief valve tool? Reply with quote

I have what appears to be a leaky pressure relief valve. I'm trying to tighten it but don't have a flathead big enough or any tool proper to tighten or back off the plug. What do you guys use for this job?
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 21, 2013 5:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I took an inexpensive wood chisel and ground the end flat and the sides in so it would fit the slotted head. Then used an adjustable wrench to tighten/ loosen. At some point I'll weld it to an old socket, which will make things even easier.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 21, 2013 8:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

look for brake adjusting tools. They look like a small funny shaped crowbar. Find one that has a flat end on it about the same size and give it hell. They are usually the right size with a right angle bend for added leverage. Its all I've ever used.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 21, 2013 8:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

CIP1 and Drivewerks sell this kind of tool, but I've never used one:

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 21, 2013 8:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

That's handy for extracting a stuck plunger but the OP is after the giant slot screwdriver required to remove the cap.
I reground a cheapo large cold chisel from Harbor freight, notice the bottom of the slot in the plug is radiused as well so shape the tip of whatever you use to fit.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 21, 2013 8:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

make sure you use a new copper crush ring when you put it back on.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 21, 2013 8:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You need a "drag link" socket to get it out.

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When you do get it out, replace it with this:
http://www.cbperformance.com/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=040-115-431

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 21, 2013 1:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

busdaddy wrote:
That's handy for extracting a stuck plunger but the OP is after the giant slot screwdriver required to remove the cap.


Ah, yes, it would help if I read the post carefully. Embarassed
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 21, 2013 6:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Why would VW design such a part? Who the hell has a "drag link socket" in their toolbox, anyway? Was that a European thing?
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 21, 2013 7:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Before modern cars with mass produced ball joints almost everything had ajustable ball and screw joints, later on (in the 50's I think) only the drag link still included that never really wears out because it's adjustable or repairable part.

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As for the availability of the tool not only did most corner service stations have a drag link tool back then the dealers all had the full compliment of required VW specialty tools hanging on the shop wall. It's much like push in spouts for metal oil cans today, everyone had a few 30 years ago but try to get your hands on one today in a panic.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 21, 2013 9:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

busdaddy wrote:
Before modern cars with mass produced ball joints almost everything had ajustable ball and screw joints, later on (in the 50's I think) only the drag link still included that never really wears out because it's adjustable or repairable part. [

Thanks for the nostalgic reminder. I had totally forgotten about those. Come to think about it I don't remember ever having to buy any front end parts.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 22, 2013 12:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

A sufficiently large flat washer from you local hardware store and some grinding will quickly make a tool that will fit the slot while a pair of vise-grips or other pliers will turn it.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 22, 2013 5:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This is all beautiful knowledge. So there is suppose to be a crush washer under this plug?
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 22, 2013 6:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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This is all beautiful knowledge. So there is suppose to be a crush washer under this plug?
Only if you don't want it to leak. Or if you don't want the spring effective length and spring pressure to control the valve like it is supposed to. Or if you like doing things contrary to your service manual. Laughing
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 23, 2013 6:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I believe Sears screwdrivers are still made square in section along their length, makes it easy to get a wrench on them.

The crush washers seem to be a hard to find item. I just reused my old one and put some Teflon tape on to take care of the drip.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 25, 2013 4:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Those of us who have both a drag link socket and a dwell meter in our toolboxes and know how to use them are technically called "old". lol. I use a drag link socket on the end of an impact driver for the job. The impact driver (the hammer type. Not to be confused with the gun type) also works well for the nut that holds the oil filler neck on. Both of these flat-tip nuts go by various names depending upon the amount of time spent getting them loose. The impact driver "almost" always works...
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 25, 2013 4:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

WilliamA wrote:
Both of these flat-tip nuts go by various names depending upon the amount of time spent getting them loose.

That's funny!
I don't own a drag link socket so I guess I'm not old! Razz
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 25, 2013 6:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

busdaddy wrote:
WilliamA wrote:
Both of these flat-tip nuts go by various names depending upon the amount of time spent getting them loose.

That's funny!
I don't own a drag link socket so I guess I'm not old! Razz


They say the memory is the first thing to go. Maybe you should check that tool box again. Wink
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PostPosted: Sun May 21, 2017 8:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Does anyone have another source for these? CB performance doesn't have any of the plugs. Jbugs has a hex head one but I like the internal Hex head that Glenn posted.

For the drag link tool, will any size drag link one fit?

I found this one on amazon with these dimensions:
3/8-inch Drive Drag Link Socket
11/16-inch Size
1/8-inch Tip width

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You need a "drag link" socket to get it out.

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When you do get it out, replace it with this:
http://www.cbperformance.com/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=040-115-431

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PostPosted: Sun May 21, 2017 8:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

kawfee wrote:

I found this one on amazon with these dimensions:
3/8-inch Drive Drag Link Socket
11/16-inch Size
1/8-inch Tip width


The tip width is what is important as it is the hardest to modify be grinding.
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