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type47fan1 Samba Member
Joined: December 03, 2011 Posts: 828 Location: McDonough GA
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GTV Samba Member
Joined: March 27, 2004 Posts: 2084 Location: Si'ahl
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Posted: Sat Dec 21, 2013 9:37 pm Post subject: |
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Nothing wrong with that paint. If the rest of the bus comes up that good I would be proud to own it. _________________ EMPI Power Rules! |
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jjjjack Samba Member
Joined: August 08, 2005 Posts: 1013 Location: Gainesville, FL
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Posted: Sun Dec 22, 2013 4:06 am Post subject: |
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I think I'll give it another shot today, maybe finish the rear hatch or jump to another panel entirely to see if it's any better. A friend (Lorne) is coming over this afternoon to give a second look...nothing ventured, nothing gained _________________ Jack Stenner
1959 Mango Westfalia SO-23
1953 Porsche 356 Coupe
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earlywesty Samba Member
Joined: May 03, 2004 Posts: 2358 Location: In the woods, Ontario
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Posted: Sun Dec 22, 2013 6:55 am Post subject: |
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Putting the paint in the context of the rest of the bus, I would say it deserves to be stripped back to original. This bus is so complete and nice that I think you'll be really happy you decided to strip it back if you see it through.
Personally, I think it looks great so far, take your time and enjoy it as much as possible. |
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bubba Samba Member
Joined: May 09, 2004 Posts: 2531 Location: Florida
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Posted: Sun Dec 22, 2013 9:13 am Post subject: |
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Spend the time and try to bring it back to original paint.. It tried on mine.. Put when I got to the long panel on mine... It was striped down to the primer by whom ever painted it in the past.. I top was ok.. But by the time I got it finished it look like hell... So I only painted the exterior of mine. Left the bus original paint and all on the inside.. _________________ ***WANTED***
SO-23 Cargo net hooks...
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curtain Bungee cords for SO23, 22, 33 ,34 ,35
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otis_bartleh Samba Member
Joined: August 19, 2009 Posts: 1106 Location: Burlington, WA
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Posted: Sun Dec 22, 2013 10:12 am Post subject: |
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Looks good to me. I have a bunch of imperfect spots on my OG paint, but stripping it back was still the best thing I did. I'll do some blending eventually. But I prefer OG paint over a new paint job anyway. If the rest of yours comes out the way it is, I say leave it!
And those are some pretty cool docs you scanned! _________________ -Adam
'59 Mango Bus
'11 Golf TDI 6-speed
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jjjjack Samba Member
Joined: August 08, 2005 Posts: 1013 Location: Gainesville, FL
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Posted: Sun Dec 22, 2013 10:53 am Post subject: |
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bubba wrote: |
Spend the time and try to bring it back to original paint.. It tried on mine.. Put when I got to the long panel on mine... It was striped down to the primer by whom ever painted it in the past.. I top was ok.. But by the time I got it finished it look like hell... So I only painted the exterior of mine. Left the bus original paint and all on the inside.. |
Yeah, if I end up repainting, that's what I'd do with mine. Paint up to, and behind the weatherstripping. Leave floors, everything inside orig.
That's a good point, though. Probably a good idea to go around to each major panel and do a spot check to be sure there's orig paint underneath! Just my luck, I wouldn't find out until the last panel, LOL.
otis_bartleh wrote: |
Looks good to me. I have a bunch of imperfect spots on my OG paint, but stripping it back was still the best thing I did. I'll do some blending eventually. But I prefer OG paint over a new paint job anyway. If the rest of yours comes out the way it is, I say leave it!
And those are some pretty cool docs you scanned! |
Thanks!
Some progress so far today...we'll see. _________________ Jack Stenner
1959 Mango Westfalia SO-23
1953 Porsche 356 Coupe
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slow36hp scott wimberley
Joined: August 09, 2004 Posts: 3113 Location: mukilteo washington
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jjjjack Samba Member
Joined: August 08, 2005 Posts: 1013 Location: Gainesville, FL
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Posted: Sun Dec 22, 2013 4:26 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks slow36hp. I'm happy with this bus either way, and am well over the garage queen fascination at this point in life
I alternated from euphoria to gloom today. I decided to change techniques from KS-3 to Strip-X realizing the harsher KS-3 was damaging the surface of the original paint too much. I found that I could brush on Strip-X and scrape it with a plastic putty knife fairly soon after application. Then, the trick was removing as much of the paint with a razor blade as possible. The thin layer of paint that remained cleaned up nicely with 0000 steel wool and acetone. You can see the difference in the upper right corner of the rear hatch. It looks sweet except for a couple of razor marks. The gloom came when I started doing the mango part of the hatch. Everything was going great until I took a huge chunk with the razor ...and a couple more blow-throughs happened.
I was ready to toss in the towel at that point. I guess the lesson is to not get too confident and only work in 2 or 3 hour stretches.
Lorne and Kent came by and were impressed, too, by the seagull section. Lorne thinks I should keep at it, and thinks the blowouts can be blended.
Family time for the next few days, then I'll give it some more elbow. _________________ Jack Stenner
1959 Mango Westfalia SO-23
1953 Porsche 356 Coupe
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ricekooker Samba Member
Joined: April 09, 2006 Posts: 1788 Location: Winter Park, FL
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Posted: Mon Dec 23, 2013 6:51 am Post subject: |
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My opinion would be to lose the razor. I stripped my old Westy down using just Jasco and 0000 steel wool. It took a lot longer but it's much safer. Once its done you can decide if you want to touch it up. Heres some before and after pics of OG SWR/BG touched up with tower paints.
BTW - Congrats on the new edition! |
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scvw Samba Member
Joined: September 02, 2006 Posts: 3544 Location: South Carolina
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otis_bartleh Samba Member
Joined: August 19, 2009 Posts: 1106 Location: Burlington, WA
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Posted: Mon Dec 23, 2013 8:45 am Post subject: |
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ricekooker wrote: |
My opinion would be to lose the razor. I stripped my old Westy down using just Jasco and 0000 steel wool. |
Exactly what I used. I was too nervous to take a razor blade to it.
Before and after, no paint blending yet... ricecooker, the paint blending turned out great!
_________________ -Adam
'59 Mango Bus
'11 Golf TDI 6-speed
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jjjjack Samba Member
Joined: August 08, 2005 Posts: 1013 Location: Gainesville, FL
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Posted: Mon Dec 23, 2013 11:30 am Post subject: |
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Look great Ricekooker and Otis.
Jasco with 0000 is probably the only thing left to try at this point. I think I can handle the razor with a bit more practice, but I'll try Jasco/0000 next.
Thanks for the suggestions. _________________ Jack Stenner
1959 Mango Westfalia SO-23
1953 Porsche 356 Coupe
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otis_bartleh Samba Member
Joined: August 19, 2009 Posts: 1106 Location: Burlington, WA
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Posted: Mon Dec 23, 2013 11:34 am Post subject: |
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I still think you took the right approach by trying different methods. I've seen one method work on one, but not too well on another. It may suck to do, but it's great when it's done! Don't forget the pics. _________________ -Adam
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Bendango Samba Member
Joined: September 04, 2005 Posts: 593
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Posted: Tue Dec 24, 2013 1:10 am Post subject: |
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I always like this thought with regards to repaints - Vw pretty intended them to be repainted to keep up with the new range of colours / freshen up.
Just part of the history. _________________ I want a real garage.
WANTED - [WTB] 55-62 Bus Thin Lip Package Tray SWR
Getting Used - SWR 60 westy copy built by vw ( apparently )
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67 Florida Deluxe Samba Purist
Joined: June 21, 2005 Posts: 7987 Location: Gainesville and Tampa, Florida
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I tried to sneak up on Jack, but it's hard in a VW! After waiving me off in a fit of fury, I snapped this of him hard at work .
I got out and went up anyway, only to find that his frustration stemmed from the inconsistency of trying to remove the respray paint while leaving the original (he had just scraped off a section down to the bare metal when I arrived, hence his frustration ) I know this frustration, because I had burned through the engine lid paint similarly with Kleen strip Aircraft stipper . Whoever repainted the bus was serious; sanding and prepping for a great bond with paint that doesn't take kindly to being removed!
It's so awesome to see Jack's progress, uncovering the original color. Even if he ends up repainting the original color, I know it won't be without giving a much more than honest effort to remove the repaint. I am so happy that Jack has this bus now and will do it the justice my schedule could not seem to accommodate. Plus, I can stop by anytime to see how it's progressing ! _________________ -Kent (BaT "daleallen")
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A few of my toys, past and present
'56 Oval, '66 KG Conv't, '67 21-Window, '67 Bug, '79 SuperVert, '55 Pre-A Continental |
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eddiemoney East Coast Scavenger
Joined: April 08, 2004 Posts: 1950 Location: Orlando
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Posted: Thu Dec 26, 2013 9:19 pm Post subject: |
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in the detailing industry they have plastic razor blades usually orange in color. if you can find a detail supply house they will probably have them. i use them at work to remove stickers from bumpers and other adhesives from paint. by far more forgiving that a metal razor blade. _________________ --------------------------------------
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jjjjack Samba Member
Joined: August 08, 2005 Posts: 1013 Location: Gainesville, FL
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Posted: Tue Dec 31, 2013 3:15 pm Post subject: |
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67 Florida Deluxe wrote: |
I tried to sneak up on Jack, but it's hard in a VW! After waiving me off in a fit of fury, I snapped this of him hard at work .
It's so awesome to see Jack's progress, uncovering the original color. Even if he ends up repainting the original color, I know it won't be without giving a much more than honest effort to remove the repaint. I am so happy that Jack has this bus now and will do it the justice my schedule could not seem to accommodate. Plus, I can stop by anytime to see how it's progressing ! |
Thanks Kent! Yeah, you caught me right at the moment I fu'd.
At this point, I'm committed...or maybe, should BE committed Either way, it's getting stripped!
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in the detailing industry they have plastic razor blades ....<snip> |
Thanks eddiemoney. I was having success using plastic putty knives from HD, but they get dull quickly and are relatively expensive. I just ordered some of the plastic razors. I bet they'll be a better option.
Back in town after the holidays and have some time before going back to work. I'm feeling pretty good about this. It's gonna take a while, but I think it's gonna work!
_________________ Jack Stenner
1959 Mango Westfalia SO-23
1953 Porsche 356 Coupe
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sled Samba Member
Joined: February 16, 2005 Posts: 6179
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Posted: Tue Dec 31, 2013 3:26 pm Post subject: |
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I think it looks awesome so far, you should be happy with it! the kind of stuff people try and pass off as og paint these days is ridiculous.
I use these kind of razors but I put a shallow bend in them so there is no risk of digging the corners.
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jjjjack Samba Member
Joined: August 08, 2005 Posts: 1013 Location: Gainesville, FL
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Posted: Tue Dec 31, 2013 3:39 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks sled, yeah, I'm happy with what I'm seeing so far. I should be able to blend the worst spots. That original paint is soooo amazing. It's almost like it's rubberized it's so tough.
My big slice was with one of the single-edged razors like that. I filed the corners so it wouldn't catch, but I'm gun-shy now, LOL. _________________ Jack Stenner
1959 Mango Westfalia SO-23
1953 Porsche 356 Coupe
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