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PostPosted: Sat Jan 11, 2014 2:03 pm    Post subject: CV Joint Service (Lobro) Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Sat Jan 11, 2014 3:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cool! They make it look so sanitary!
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 11, 2015 1:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Where can I get that inner cover for the CV's?
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 11, 2015 7:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Where can I get that inner cover for the CV's?

Inner cover was not used on a bus.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 11, 2015 8:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'd like to get some new inner and outer clamps like in the pics?
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 11, 2015 8:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I'd like to get some new inner and outer clamps like in the pics?


McMaster Carr sells them for up to 3".

HCL clamping sells a wide variety including double ear, click style, plastic and stainless.
http://www.hcl-clamping.com/Snap-Fit-and-Ear-Clamps-C1?gclid=CKSkptLPoMQCFZI0aQod6zIAmQ

But the best type...if you want to use pinch lamps are the "seamless" type.

Murray corportion sells some. http://www.murraycorp.com/pinch-ear-clamps.html

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 11, 2015 10:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

O O'reilly's

cv+boot+clamp+install

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 11, 2015 11:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Where can I get that inner cover for the CV's?

Inner cover was not used on a bus.


I think I've seen them on some low-milage early early bays. Let me check and get back...
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 11, 2015 12:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have not seen them and they are not listed in the parts manual.
It would be interesting if you found them.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 11, 2015 2:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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It would be interesting if you found them.
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I didn't find them, but I read about them here:

http://www.itinerant-air-cooled.com/viewtopic.php?...ps#p177198

I have three four sets of original CVs off various early bays, including my own 80k original 1969 joints. I will look at them and get back to you next time I visit.

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 11, 2015 3:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Tcash wrote:

It would be interesting if you found them.
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I didn't find them, but I read about them here:

http://www.itinerant-air-cooled.com/viewtopic.php?...ps#p177198

I have three four sets of original CVs off various early bays, including my own 80k original 1969 joints. I will look at them and get back to you next time I visit.

Robbie


I'd like some verification that covers were used until or through 1969. Also, Robbie, on yours, do you see lipped stub axle flanges, like the transmission CV flanges so you could rest the CV inside and get the screws started that much more easily. It was only 2AH (two years past Heinz Nordhoff), so quality still counted in 1969.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 11, 2015 3:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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asiab3 wrote:
Tcash wrote:

It would be interesting if you found them.
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I didn't find them, but I read about them here:

http://www.itinerant-air-cooled.com/viewtopic.php?...ps#p177198

I have three four sets of original CVs off various early bays, including my own 80k original 1969 joints. I will look at them and get back to you next time I visit.

Robbie


I'd like some verification that covers were used until or through 1969. Also, Robbie, on yours, do you see lipped stub axle flanges, like the transmission CV flanges so you could rest the CV inside and get the screws started that much more easily. It was only 2AH (two years past Heinz Nordhoff), so quality still counted in 1969.
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Glad you chimed in! I often feel guilty for ripping off your example photographs; my hands are usually too greasy for something as unrelated as pictures during messy operations...

I do have the flanged stub axles. They make installing the CVs much easier and prevent grease-flung messes.

I'll check for caps when I'm at my parents house this weekend. I have mine, two sets form '71 buses, and an original set from a '75 bus. Why, when I ripped off those original German axles for shiny EMPI replacements, I thought I was doing my bus a favor. My how times have changed.

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 11, 2015 3:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bleyseng wrote:
I'd like to get some new inner and outer clamps like in the pics?


I used delicate plastic ties. Easy. Easy on rubber. Easy to install. Plus, you use designer colors, orange for the 914, red for the Karmann Ghia . . .
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 08, 2015 5:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have just schaged oneside on my 1978 2 litre. I used the same brand in the book and the washer supplied was to small to go ver the axel. My guess is because they fit many applications it may be used on other vehicles.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 08, 2015 6:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

asiab3 wrote:
Tcash wrote:

It would be interesting if you found them.
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I didn't find them, but I read about them here:

http://www.itinerant-air-cooled.com/viewtopic.php?...ps#p177198

I have three four sets of original CVs off various early bays, including my own 80k original 1969 joints. I will look at them and get back to you next time I visit.

Robbie


My tourist delivery '68, production date 3/17/68, had the inner covers. I don't think all 4 were there and not 100% sure it they were OG since I am the 3rd owner. But the second owner was not mechanical at all so I suspect they were. I did not reuse them, if I find them I'll post a pic.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 08, 2015 7:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I have just schaged oneside on my 1978 2 litre. I used the same brand in the book and the washer supplied was to small to go ver the axel. My guess is because they fit many applications it may be used on other vehicles.


The spring washer was eliminated decades ago. Not sure why, but I presume that if one doesn't get the snap ring well seated the spring washer will cause the snap ring to pop out of its groove possibly leading to a failure.
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asiab3 wrote:
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asiab3 wrote:
Tcash wrote:

It would be interesting if you found them.
Curious
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I didn't find them, but I read about them here:

http://www.itinerant-air-cooled.com/viewtopic.php?...ps#p177198

I have three four sets of original CVs off various early bays, including my own 80k original 1969 joints. I will look at them and get back to you next time I visit.

Robbie


I'd like some verification that covers were used until or through 1969. Also, Robbie, on yours, do you see lipped stub axle flanges, like the transmission CV flanges so you could rest the CV inside and get the screws started that much more easily. It was only 2AH (two years past Heinz Nordhoff), so quality still counted in 1969.
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Glad you chimed in! I often feel guilty for ripping off your example photographs; my hands are usually too greasy for something as unrelated as pictures during messy operations...

I do have the flanged stub axles. They make installing the CVs much easier and prevent grease-flung messes.

I'll check for caps when I'm at my parents house this weekend. I have mine, two sets form '71 buses, and an original set from a '75 bus. Why, when I ripped off those original German axles for shiny EMPI replacements, I thought I was doing my bus a favor. My how times have changed.

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I could not find my caps, but I'm sure they are around somewhere. I will hunt some more.

Today I was at the VW shop and the mechanic said he believes the caps were used in '68 only buses. He said the CV had a lip machined into them so the cap would fit into the CV and the CV would fit flush on the axle or transaxle.
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I could not find my caps, but I'm sure they are around somewhere. I will hunt some more.

Today I was at the VW shop and the mechanic said he believes the caps were used in '68 only buses. He said the CV had a lip machined into them so the cap would fit into the CV and the CV would fit flush on the axle or transaxle.


Thanks for the update Rich. Of fourse I forgot to unpack and look at my OG CVs last weekend when I was near them...

Are you using your original CVs that should have the lip in them? It would be cool to see a picture. Or maybe the lip stayed on if it was less expensive to keep the tooling the same for later CVs?

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 09, 2015 4:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

asiab3 wrote:
richparker wrote:

I could not find my caps, but I'm sure they are around somewhere. I will hunt some more.

Today I was at the VW shop and the mechanic said he believes the caps were used in '68 only buses. He said the CV had a lip machined into them so the cap would fit into the CV and the CV would fit flush on the axle or transaxle.


Thanks for the update Rich. Of fourse I forgot to unpack and look at my OG CVs last weekend when I was near them...

Are you using your original CVs that should have the lip in them? It would be cool to see a picture. Or maybe the lip stayed on if it was less expensive to keep the tooling the same for later CVs?

Robbie


I am currently running the CVs that came with my bus. I beleve 3 are OG '68s and one is an OG '78. Next service I'll try to remember to take a pic and post it.

We did look a several CVs at the shop, some OG some aftermarket. Non of them had the lip.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 09, 2015 8:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I'd like to get some new inner and outer clamps like in the pics?


I used delicate plastic ties. Easy. Easy on rubber. Easy to install. Plus, you use designer colors, orange for the 914, red for the Karmann Ghia . . .
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I only clamp the wheel side of the joint. I've found that this allows the boot to relieve any unseen stresses during high revolution spinning of the shaft as well as the up/down movement. I now have 17 years since my previous CV refurb and all is well.
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