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eyetzr Samba Member
Joined: October 09, 2013 Posts: 1425 Location: Toronto, Ontario. Canada
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Posted: Fri Mar 19, 2021 7:04 pm Post subject: Re: Black Fastback Build Thread |
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Doubled up the brake light bulbs. 2 1157 led bulbs under flat lens.
X2 on removing the plastic on the wire ends. Crimp, solder shrink tube.
PS car looks awesome! _________________ I think he meant "rare", as in "not well-done" |
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Brent Samba Member
Joined: April 28, 2010 Posts: 1614 Location: San Tan Valley, AZ
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Posted: Fri Mar 19, 2021 10:53 pm Post subject: Re: Black Fastback Build Thread |
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eyetzr wrote: |
Doubled up the brake light bulbs. 2 1157 led bulbs under flat lens.
X2 on removing the plastic on the wire ends. Crimp, solder shrink tube.
PS car looks awesome! |
Soldering crimped connectors is a no-no and will make a weaker connection over time with expansion/contraction, a proper crimp is better IMO. _________________ 69 Fastback Build
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Clatter Samba Member
Joined: September 24, 2003 Posts: 7549 Location: Santa Cruz
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Posted: Sat Mar 20, 2021 11:06 am Post subject: Re: Black Fastback Build Thread |
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Well, there's 200 pages,
And while it's not there, it's getting pretty close
(and yet so far).
WRT the crappy red/yellow/blue crimp connectors, i have done them different ways.
The correct factory crimp is a double crimp, one for the copper wire strands, and the other for the insulation.
If you strip away the plastic sheath on the re/yellow/blue and use just shrink-wrap, the wrap doesn't provide that much strain relief.
Makes a stress riser at the edge of the (soft copper stranded) crimped wire.
I used to do this, but now i leave the plastic to provide -some- strain relief, and then go over it with shrink-wrap as well.
Looks a bit messier sometimes, but functionally should be better.
IHHO, FWIW, YMMV they all suck compared to the double crimp real factory style..
Here, doing the compartment wiring,
I added a bit of shrink-wrap to the correct double crimp ends.
Finished up the compartment.
Decided to shrink-wrap everything so it all shows black.
Reminds me of those buggies wired all in the same color.
Ended up using a couple of zip ties on my stupid tubes to keep the wires out of sight.
You can see them a bit, but still pretty decently hidden.
Something better might come to me,
Or,
More likely,
I'll stop caring entirely!
The guys at ISP came through and shipped out my last stuff real quick-like.
Super stoked for that.
Stuff like trim clips and horn bracket.
Finally stabbing the final crown jewels of electrical..
Big moment came to let the smoke out of everything,
And whadda ya know, it all just worked!
Then i threw 5 gallons of Sunoco purple 110 in the tank,
And ran the fuel pump to see if there were any leaks.
There were..
Luckily it turned out that i forgot to tighten the fitting at the bottom of the tank *whew*.
Threw the wheels on, and started gearing up to take a test-drive..
Shutting the door, the stupid clamp i use to keep the decklid open popped off,
The decklid slammed shut so hard it ejected the chrome trim part clear up out of it's push nuts onto the ground..
Now I'm using a piece of wood.
That was a sign.
A sign i was tired and need to take my time,
And there's still a bunch of things i need to check and do before i mess anything else up.
Plus, it's a PITA getting this thing up on the stands.
So,
Maybe tomorrow..
Or the next day..
Still not -more- than 200 pages, right? _________________ Bus Motor Build
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Mr.Duncan Samba Member
Joined: May 12, 2012 Posts: 3542 Location: Houston, TX
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Posted: Sat Mar 20, 2021 2:37 pm Post subject: Re: Black Fastback Build Thread |
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Looking good.
2X on taking your time.
Was changing my rear wheel cylinders today, and I rushed it and pumped the master cylinder down the the floor.
Guess what that did to my 50 year old master cylinder seals? - It's shot.
Just ordered a new master cylinder from ISP west... I should not have rushed it... _________________ (Owner) www.vintagecarleds.com
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260KMN Samba Member
Joined: January 17, 2014 Posts: 236 Location: Devon UK
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Posted: Sat Mar 20, 2021 3:32 pm Post subject: Re: Black Fastback Build Thread |
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That is looking amazing, well done Steve for keeping going. |
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Peters Van Samba Member
Joined: March 27, 2014 Posts: 357 Location: Goulburn NSW Australia
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Posted: Sat Mar 20, 2021 4:49 pm Post subject: Re: Black Fastback Build Thread |
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[quote="Clatter"]Thanks for all of the fine help, gentlemen.
Dag, what would we ever do without this resource??
Mr. Duncan has suggested that i will likely hit both contacts in the bulb when installed, or, can solder across the two contacts and ensure this happens.
Also can remove one of the mounting pins to make my 1157s onto 1156s.
Might just run them in the bus?
We'll see if any online fishing yields results..
Let me know if you find a linky..
WRT those crimpers, it still beguiles me how anyone thinks they re OK to use.
Still, i used them anyway..
See how it's wrong one way or the other?
I just flipped them around and re-crimped both ways.
Then covered it in shrink wrap so i never have to see them again.
If it's hidden, it doesn't exist, right?
My workaround for those plastic connector terminals is to pull the plastic sleeve off them, put the wire in and crimp tightly with pliers so its not an actual crimp but just tight enough to hold the wire in...... and then solder. cover that with some heatshrink.......... better than covering the plastic _________________ 1965 Type 3 Panel Van
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Clatter Samba Member
Joined: September 24, 2003 Posts: 7549 Location: Santa Cruz
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Posted: Sat Mar 20, 2021 8:18 pm Post subject: Re: Black Fastback Build Thread |
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Brent wrote: |
eyetzr wrote: |
Doubled up the brake light bulbs. 2 1157 led bulbs under flat lens.
X2 on removing the plastic on the wire ends. Crimp, solder shrink tube.
PS car looks awesome! |
Soldering crimped connectors is a no-no and will make a weaker connection over time with expansion/contraction, a proper crimp is better IMO. |
Making double brake light bulbs is a grand idea...
Have also heard to never use solder on crimped connections.
Seen it on the early style screw terminals for sure;
The Wiring Works harness i got for my oval came with all the stripped stripped ends tinned.
Crimp connections are supposed to be another matter entirely.
At least that’s what ‘they say’.. _________________ Bus Motor Build
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Brent Samba Member
Joined: April 28, 2010 Posts: 1614 Location: San Tan Valley, AZ
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Posted: Sun Mar 21, 2021 12:02 am Post subject: Re: Black Fastback Build Thread |
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Clatter wrote: |
Brent wrote: |
eyetzr wrote: |
Doubled up the brake light bulbs. 2 1157 led bulbs under flat lens.
X2 on removing the plastic on the wire ends. Crimp, solder shrink tube.
PS car looks awesome! |
Soldering crimped connectors is a no-no and will make a weaker connection over time with expansion/contraction, a proper crimp is better IMO. |
Making double brake light bulbs is a grand idea...
Have also heard to never use solder on crimped connections.
Seen it on the early style screw terminals for sure;
The Wiring Works harness i got for my oval came with all the stripped stripped ends tinned.
Crimp connections are supposed to be another matter entirely.
At least that’s what ‘they say’.. |
I've seen it. Some of the x-ray instruments I work on had tinned ends that went into a screw type terminal from the factory. These connections pass a lot of current and get hot. Then they come loose and cause problems. We've had to undo the mistake in the field. No issues with bare wire. _________________ 69 Fastback Build
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Bobnotch Samba Member
Joined: July 06, 2003 Posts: 22431 Location: Kimball, Mi
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Posted: Sun Mar 21, 2021 3:28 am Post subject: Re: Black Fastback Build Thread |
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Clatter wrote: |
Well, there's 200 pages,
And while it's not there, it's getting pretty close
(and yet so far).
WRT the crappy red/yellow/blue crimp connectors, i have done them different ways.
Finished up the compartment.
Decided to shrink-wrap everything so it all shows black.
Reminds me of those buggies wired all in the same color.
You can see them a bit, but still pretty decently hidden.
Something better might come to me,
Or,
More likely,
I'll stop caring entirely!
Shutting the door, the stupid clamp i use to keep the decklid open popped off,
The decklid slammed shut so hard it ejected the chrome trim part clear up out of it's push nuts onto the ground..
Now I'm using a piece of wood.
That was a sign.
A sign i was tired and need to take my time,
And there's still a bunch of things i need to check and do before i mess anything else up.
Plus, it's a PITA getting this thing up on the stands.
So,
Maybe tomorrow..
Or the next day..
Still not -more- than 200 pages, right? |
You're gaining on it.
For those red, blue, & yellow connectors, I use a different crimping tool. It puts an indent into the plastic and the connector to crimp it to the wire. No problems with them coming loose in the 30 years I've been crimping ends on with it.
As for the all black wire look in buggies, that reminds me of a friend who had a small engine fire in his bug. He used red wire to make up a new harness section. It worked, and he's color blind. You just take it 1 wire at a time.
At this point I think you should slow down and take your time. Otherwise you'll be in there touching up other stuff. I do like the double bulb for the brake lights, and the LEDs really brighten them up. That might be the way to go versus using the bumper mounted lights. _________________ Bob 65 Notch S with Sunroof
71 Notch ...aka Krunchy; build pics here;
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=249390 -been busy working
64 T-34 Ghia...aka Wolfie, under construction... http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=412120
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"Friends are God's way of apologizing for relatives." |
Tram wrote: |
People keep confusing "restored" and "restroyed". |
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eyetzr Samba Member
Joined: October 09, 2013 Posts: 1425 Location: Toronto, Ontario. Canada
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Posted: Sun Mar 21, 2021 1:03 pm Post subject: Re: Black Fastback Build Thread |
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I have run bulbs mounts from Ron Francis wiring. They designed them for older cars with single filament bulbs so the hot rod guys can have some better lighting. All three bulbs are doubles. 3 taillights, 2 brake, 1 signal. There is a bit of surgery to get the bulb mounts in, but the led bulbs fit in the flat style lens. _________________ I think he meant "rare", as in "not well-done" |
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VWporscheGT3 Samba Member
Joined: September 01, 2006 Posts: 2076 Location: Gardnerville, NV
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Posted: Mon Mar 22, 2021 7:16 am Post subject: Re: Black Fastback Build Thread |
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Your almost there buddy!!! looking down right sexy.. you gotta do a video for the drive... make the wife get in with ya! _________________ Schnell, SCHNELL!
I like being wrong, Because, it is another opportunity to learn. If you stop learning from your mistakes than what is the point?
If you have any questions about Forged ICON 4032 VW pistons just shoot me a line. |
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notchboy Samba Member
Joined: April 27, 2002 Posts: 22463 Location: Escondido CA
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Posted: Mon Mar 22, 2021 7:37 am Post subject: Re: Black Fastback Build Thread |
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Clatter wrote: |
Well, there's 200 pages,
And while it's not there, it's getting pretty close
(and yet so far).
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:2gunfire: _________________
t3kg wrote: |
OK, this thread is over. You win. |
Jason "notchboy" Weigel
1964 1500 S
1964 T34 S Convertible
1977 Westfalia Camper pop-top |
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Clatter Samba Member
Joined: September 24, 2003 Posts: 7549 Location: Santa Cruz
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Posted: Mon Mar 22, 2021 7:59 am Post subject: Re: Black Fastback Build Thread |
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Whoo. Been plowing along..!
Was nice to spend a couple of weekend mornings -not- working on the car TBPH.
Kids both competed in surf contests, so i got to surf, and actually socialize with other humans.
On the other hand, being at war with neighbors is the opposite of socialization..
Anti-socialization??
In this work area shot, you will notice several hundred watts' worth of sound equipment.
It may not look that loud in the picture, But...
Why does a guy wear hearing protection to do wiring??
This is a -very- effective tool for managing neighbor relations.
They leave their LED flood-lights on all night shining in my bedroom window (again),
I provide them with Iggy Pop's first three albums on repeat.
This PA system has a nice diagram on the back, where it recommends speaker placement for an audience 'between 2500 and 5000' people.
It also has a feature "voice projection" that works nicely as well.
Been a billion little things to install, adjust, tighten, fiddle, fondle and re-do.
Can't even remember what they all were...
My friend Damon came over and helped me get the car down off the stands.
Jumped in, turned the key, and it fired right off..
Seems like the clutch works, and it goes in all gears.
Muffler sounds great. It's got a bit of boom to it.
Was actually surprised it was as loud as it was being so big, and glass-wrapped inside.
Got a video, but it just sounds ridiculous over a phone mic.
All you hear is the clatter..
It was late, i don't know where my registration stickers are, the tenants were parked in the way, and we were a bit intoxicated at that point..
Probably just as well we didn't take it out yet.
Car sits damn low, and the ass drags a bit.
Hoping the front settles in more than the rear, because the front has stock torsions and the rear has those thick bars in.
We'll see after a few trips around the neighborhood.. One can hope.
Might limp around slow and get some pics like this, as it looks great,
But it's WAY too low to actually drive on the street,
At least if it's going to be driven fast..
The beam clamps will be scraping as will the muffler.
Might be too low to even make it out of the driveway.
But i intend to find out... _________________ Bus Motor Build
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ALLWAGONS Samba Member
Joined: June 03, 2000 Posts: 4189 Location: Pasadena CA/DTLA soon China
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Posted: Mon Mar 22, 2021 8:55 am Post subject: Re: Black Fastback Build Thread |
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Wow! That looks beautiful!!
Whaaaat? No sidemarkers??
I just realized! _________________ I'd be UNSTOPPABLE if not for Law Enforcement and PHYSICS.
I recycle old cars and parts, other than when I rot, that's as Green as I am going to get.
Thanks to my Tesla driving neighbors, I feel more relaxed driving my SUBURBAN and old VW's.
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Erik G Samba Member
Joined: October 16, 2002 Posts: 13281 Location: Tejas!
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Posted: Mon Mar 22, 2021 8:58 am Post subject: Re: Black Fastback Build Thread |
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congrats! looks great, and yeah, probably best you weren't out driving it.
(Me thinks you exaggerate a bit, It's not that low...) |
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notchboy Samba Member
Joined: April 27, 2002 Posts: 22463 Location: Escondido CA
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Posted: Mon Mar 22, 2021 10:36 am Post subject: Re: Black Fastback Build Thread |
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Erik G wrote: |
congrats! looks great, and yeah, probably best you weren't out driving it.
(Me thinks you exaggerate a bit, It's not that low...) |
Agreed. Thats not low. Its perfect. The kind of low that screams performance, not the kind of low that says "Hey! Where is the meth?"
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t3kg wrote: |
OK, this thread is over. You win. |
Jason "notchboy" Weigel
1964 1500 S
1964 T34 S Convertible
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VWporscheGT3 Samba Member
Joined: September 01, 2006 Posts: 2076 Location: Gardnerville, NV
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Posted: Mon Mar 22, 2021 10:41 am Post subject: Re: Black Fastback Build Thread |
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UH, SCHWING!!!! ... damn nice to see it almost there and on all four rubbers... damn she nice! _________________ Schnell, SCHNELL!
I like being wrong, Because, it is another opportunity to learn. If you stop learning from your mistakes than what is the point?
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Bobnotch Samba Member
Joined: July 06, 2003 Posts: 22431 Location: Kimball, Mi
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Posted: Mon Mar 22, 2021 12:32 pm Post subject: Re: Black Fastback Build Thread |
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notchboy wrote: |
Erik G wrote: |
congrats! looks great, and yeah, probably best you weren't out driving it.
(Me thinks you exaggerate a bit, It's not that low...) |
Agreed. Thats not low. Its perfect. The kind of low that screams performance, not the kind of low that says "Hey! Where is the meth?"
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Agreed that's just about perfect.
Run it around the block a couple of times, and see where it settles out, and note where it hits/rubs. Then go from there. It really looks beautiful sitting there on all 4, versus having it on stands.
Hopefully today it gets the rest of the bling to finish off the outside. _________________ Bob 65 Notch S with Sunroof
71 Notch ...aka Krunchy; build pics here;
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=249390 -been busy working
64 T-34 Ghia...aka Wolfie, under construction... http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=412120
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"Friends are God's way of apologizing for relatives." |
Tram wrote: |
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Clatter Samba Member
Joined: September 24, 2003 Posts: 7549 Location: Santa Cruz
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Posted: Mon Mar 22, 2021 5:16 pm Post subject: Re: Black Fastback Build Thread |
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ALLWAGONS wrote: |
Wow! That looks beautiful!!
Whaaaat? No sidemarkers??
I just realized! |
Funny,
as much as i am for customizing this thing,
i actually tried to leave all of the details stock.
Early fat trim is cool, as is the center arm-rest for the back seat.
But,
For some reason,
i decided to preserve the original configuration this car shipped with.
At least from a 'body details' point of view..
A US-spec black sunroof Fastback from '67 is actually kind of unique in some of the little things.
There certainly aren't going to be many of them around original for very much longer.
Even though I'm a butcher for sure,
Some of it is preserved for history.. _________________ Bus Motor Build
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Clatter Samba Member
Joined: September 24, 2003 Posts: 7549 Location: Santa Cruz
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Posted: Mon Mar 22, 2021 5:25 pm Post subject: Re: Black Fastback Build Thread |
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notchboy wrote: |
Thats not low. |
You guys don't know how i drive.
You'll never see a lowered rallycar. _________________ Bus Motor Build
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