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CaLiBus Samba Member
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Posted: Wed Jan 22, 2014 10:15 am Post subject: Barndoor brake Reservoir ? |
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Asking the pros here if Barndoors used this metal type reservoir? If so what years. Early split window bugs did.
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EverettB  Administrator

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Posted: Wed Jan 22, 2014 10:21 am Post subject: |
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Yes. All years, unless I am not aware the super early Barndoors are different.
It extended into non-Barndoors too.
Progressive Refinements says:
11 Apr. 1957
Chassis # 248 322
Brake Fluid Reservoir
Now: rubber cap
Formerly: Screwed cover
Now: screwed flange, 19mm
Formerly: 27mm _________________ How to Post Photos
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CaLiBus Samba Member
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Posted: Wed Jan 22, 2014 10:56 am Post subject: |
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Awesome! Thanks Everette!
Do these early numbers mean anything? At one end what I think is a number 16? The outer diameter of master cylinder is smaller compared to an August 55 master cylinder.
Is there a thread somewhere pointing out the differences in years?
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Tonny_Larsen Samba Member

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Posted: Fri Jan 24, 2014 4:06 am Post subject: |
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EverettB wrote: |
Usually that number is the diameter of the master cylinder.
For instance 19 or 22 meaning 19mm or 22mm.
Barndoors are 19mm, 55-67 are 22mm.
16 is for ? |
And very early barndoors are 22mm |
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djfordmanjack Samba Member

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Posted: Fri Jan 24, 2014 5:08 am Post subject: |
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this simply must be a 16mm master. probably out of some other German car brand, maybe DkW, Cologne Ford or similar. They must have used the same standard reservoir on different size cylinders, which they also did later and still do, although nowadays the standard classic car reservoir is made of plastic of course. _________________ Hotrods, Fords, Veedubs and Triumph Twins ! ______Barndoor + Kohlruss Coachbuilt DLX afficionado
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52panelvan Samba Member
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Posted: Fri Jan 24, 2014 3:08 pm Post subject: |
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The remains on both my 52 and 51 were steel I think, I had assumed that the one in the pic above was steel (zinc plated) too as it looks rusty on a few spots on the side of it? _________________ Austrian Kohlruss Deluxe
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Brian_1952 Samba Member

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Posted: Fri Jan 24, 2014 6:18 pm Post subject: |
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Steel one are 1952 and down bug and bus _________________ (20-024785)Ambulance (20-037784)truck (20-035850)panel
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CaLiBus Samba Member
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Posted: Fri Jan 24, 2014 9:25 pm Post subject: |
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Brian_Mccue wrote: |
Steel one are 1952 and down bug and bus |
That's the info I found in the spit window bug threads.. I'm thinking what Everette found was for the aluminum canisters. |
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CaLiBus Samba Member
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Posted: Fri Jan 24, 2014 9:30 pm Post subject: |
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52panelvan wrote: |
The remains on both my 52 and 51 were steel I think, I had assumed that the one in the pic above was steel (zinc plated) too as it looks rusty on a few spots on the side of it? |
Yes steel canister. Here's the metal Ate cap
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Tonny_Larsen Samba Member

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Posted: Sat Jan 25, 2014 2:26 pm Post subject: |
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EverettB wrote: |
Tonny_Larsen wrote: |
EverettB wrote: |
Usually that number is the diameter of the master cylinder.
For instance 19 or 22 meaning 19mm or 22mm.
Barndoors are 19mm, 55-67 are 22mm.
16 is for ? |
And very early barndoors are 22mm |
Thank you Tonny.
I also assume the very early reservoirs might be steel instead of aluminum?
Beetle thread:
Brake fluid reservoir, Steel vs. Aluminum |
Yes, for sure steel. The same as on a early beetle |
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Clara  Samba Member

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Posted: Mon Mar 03, 2014 10:20 pm Post subject: Re: Barndoor brake Reservoir ? |
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CaLiBus wrote: |
Asking the pros here if Barndoors used this metal type reservoir? If so what years. Early split window bugs did.
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That looks curved at the bottom.
This reservoir was on my Jan '56 westy when I got it:
The same type was on my June '53 bus when I got it, and it had '66 tags on at the time.
You can't see it very well:
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CaLiBus Samba Member
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Posted: Tue Mar 04, 2014 12:46 pm Post subject: |
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Yes. Mine does appear to be more round at the bottom.
Here's the bottom stamping just like what you have. The reservoir is definitely Ate. The Ate cap fits perfect. It could be an earlier or older version.
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RockStock Samba Member

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Posted: Thu Sep 22, 2022 9:21 am Post subject: Re: Barndoor brake Reservoir ? |
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What are people using for reservoir gaskets 24 and 27?
Ie who supplies these?
Are they rubber, or the fibre type?
(Ref gasket 27…is that internal diameter 22mm, external diameter 27mm?) _________________ -StockRocks- |
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RockStock Samba Member

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Posted: Thu Sep 22, 2022 10:48 am Post subject: Gasket 27 |
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I actually have gasket 27…it’s a copper ring, approx 22/27 diameters.
So would like to know about gasket 24…and gasket 25 come to think of it _________________ -StockRocks- |
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RockStock Samba Member

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Posted: Wed Oct 26, 2022 5:53 am Post subject: Re: Barndoor brake Reservoir ? |
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RockStock wrote: |
What are people using for reservoir gaskets 24 and 27?
Ie who supplies these?
Are they rubber, or the fibre type?
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#24 Rubber Seal
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RockStock Samba Member

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Crashbox Samba Member

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Posted: Wed Mar 08, 2023 12:43 pm Post subject: Re: Barndoor brake Reservoir ? |
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Inner diameter is 50 millimeters.
Outer diameter is 66.5 millimeters.
Thickness is 1.2 millimeters.
_________________ '50 Type 11C
'52 Type 21A
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RockStock Samba Member

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Posted: Tue Mar 14, 2023 10:13 am Post subject: Re: Barndoor brake Reservoir ? |
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Thank you Crashbox! Very kind.
Does anyone have a spare seal? _________________ -StockRocks-
Last edited by RockStock on Wed Mar 15, 2023 8:09 am; edited 1 time in total |
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