The New GoWesty EFI Parts Kit

[dart330]

[oceanair]

But as usual -- it's not going to work on the 1.9. I asked. Too bad it's not compatible. They could have sold many more.
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84 Vanagon Pop Top Conversion from Tin Top, 1970 Ghia - all sweet rides! Love em!
Previous: Green 72 Tin Top, White 72 Westy, Blue 64 Beetle, Yellow 71 Squareback, 2014 Jetta TDI Wagon - wish I could have them all back!

[vegpedlr]

While I'm bummed about the price, I'm glad GW has made the effort for us Californians. That CARB approval is fantastic. The R&D for such a small niche market must have been a real PITA. I'm curious about the performance on a stock WBX. We've seen the performance boost it gives their engines, but what about stock? I am especially interested in fuel economy.
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1985 Tintop 4 sp GW 2.3 “Connie”
2006 Mk V GTI 2.0 FSI “Penelope”

[Mellow Yellow 74]

[hdenter]

I don't know if the CARB sticker would be valid on an '85 or earlier van, but there is no reason for the new EFI system not to work on a 1.9. You just have to get the rest of the 2.1 components that the GW system is designed around and install them with it. Many people have upgraded their 1.9 digijet systems to Digifant. Either they have swapped all the 2.1 components including the exhaust, cooling and FI or they have done it piecemeal to suit their needs.

Hans
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'79 triple white convertible bug
'84 sunroof vanagon
'85 weekender

[mtnride1]

I'm pulling the trigger next week on this set up. Luckily I still have a some cash in the westy fund left over. Hope it all works out.
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87 westy 2wd (NED)

[Syncronoid]

Are you going to be installing yourself or have a shop do it? If DIY, please start a separate build/results thread so we can track. Thanks!

[vegpedlr]

A way of thinking that maybe takes a little of the sting out of the price is to consider some of the parts involved. A new throttle body, AFM, and ECU, coil and distributor. Parts that cause running issues, or NLA, may need to be rebuilt, etc.
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1985 Tintop 4 sp GW 2.3 “Connie”
2006 Mk V GTI 2.0 FSI “Penelope”

[Gruppe B]

Don't forget the brand new wiring harness!

[oceanair]

[D Clymer]

[hdenter]

GW just doesn't want to deal with 1.9 engines so they make it seem like it is not possible. The 1.9 long block and 2.1 long block are almost identical and what minor differences there are are easily delt with. That's why so many people with early vans put 2.1 and 2.2 engines in at rebuild time. All the accessories can be swapped back and forth to fit what system you want to use.

Hans
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'79 triple white convertible bug
'84 sunroof vanagon
'85 weekender

[avernon82]

man, I wish this came out 2.5 years ago. I've since bought a rebuilt throttle body $350, AFM 239, cleaned injectors50, rebuilt ECU 250, new distributor 70, and oxygen sensor 80.

It hurts to type that all out.

[hdenter]

Ok, so you are in for a grand. Let's say you spend a few hundred more on a new harness. That's still less than half of the cost of the new system. Unless you have something more than a 2.3 you are good to go for many years. The new system was designed to support GW's larger engines with higher compression. They where having too many failures because at that level of performance EVERYTHING needs to be perfectly in tune. The old system just can't provide that kind of performance. If you have a fairly stock motor you can get new and/or rebuilt throttle bodies, AFMs, ECUs , idle air valves and modules- the whole ball of wax for significantly less money than the GW EFI and you van will run great. The only people who really need this kind of system are those who are going big or going turbo. I applaud them for doing it and hope to one day have an engine that would need this or Marco's kit, but the average guy doesn't really need it. If the price point was closer to $2k, then it would make a lot more sense to change over instead of doing a complete stock FI overhaul. But at $3k, it doesn't really pencil out for a stockish engine. That's MHO...

Hans
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'79 triple white convertible bug
'84 sunroof vanagon
'85 weekender

[GBA 88West LA]

[shagginwagon83]

[Abelabelabel]

I'm excited for this. Been following it for a while. Not sure if I'll get it for my 2100 Van any time soon, but glad to know it's there.
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1990 Vanagon Carat / manual / Cherry Red "Bella Rouge"

[Syncronoid]

To the best of my calculations, my GW2.5L (which has run flawlessly since 2012 and going on 60k miles now) will gain 13HP with the EFI based on projections from the current line up of GW's larger displacement engines, up to 138HP from 125HP. Worth $3000+Labor+Misc?
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'90 Syncro Westy w/GW2.5L

[remraf]

I have a fresh rebuilt 2.1 and have wanted to replace the stock system. Ive followed this closely and think they’ve done an amazing job. I wish the price was lower but given all that’s included and carb approval it’s probably not that bad.

FYI, for those who already bought the new aluminum TB (like me) apparently they won’t deduct the price of the TB from the kit. I called to ask and it didn’t seem like they anticipated that scenario. The person indicated I could have a backup or sell my old one or order it over the phone without and lose gobucks. Hopefully they’ll rethink it.

I also asked about tunability and access to ecu via laptop. The salesperson didn’t have that info. If they can remote into it the functionality is there, I wonder if it’s locked down.

Last, not to high jack the thread but there is another kit about to come to market for the wbxr. I’m on the wbxr Facebook group and Marco Mansi has posted pics of his almost completed EFI system he’s doing with thedubshop.

EDIT removed detailed Marco kit info.

[Syncronoid]

Let's keep Marco's FI/Turbo project on that thread, most of us on this thread are following that one as well.
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'90 Syncro Westy w/GW2.5L