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PostPosted: Sat Jan 25, 2014 12:59 pm    Post subject: Weird Oil Pump Reply with quote

I have been having issues with oil leaks on my engine. I recently rebuilt it down to the pistons and used polyurethane sealant instead of the silicone stuff that was on it before. Oil is still slowly dripping from below the oil pump. Now that I have gotten around to getting a puller, I realize that there is no way the puller will work with this oil pump. It is an o-ring pump that is about 40 years old and I couldn't find any pictures of any oil pumps like it. The cover says Bugpack.
I want to know how I can remove it properly, without taking the engine apart, just so I can replace both of the seals on the pump and not leave oil on the ground wherever I park it.

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PostPosted: Sat Jan 25, 2014 8:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Puller should go into the two oil holes same as any other ACVW pump. Loosen the nut above and the nut & bolt below to make it easier.
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 26, 2014 7:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If the pump is plugged for full flow the puller will not work. The plug is in the way.
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 26, 2014 7:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Even if its plugged for full flow, you can still use the pump puller. It takes a little technique but can still get done.
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 26, 2014 11:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

can you see if the leek is at this oring ot the next sealing serface?are you sure the oil isant coming from the pully above the pump??if so add a sand seal&have the pully cut to match the sand seal.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 27, 2014 10:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

where is the pin for the lower gear?!?!?! if that thing slipped out it may be time to replace that pump... I currently don't know of any pumps that had a removable gear pin.. someone correct me if I'm wrong
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 27, 2014 10:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm guessing that the pin is in the gear and that it has a locating hole in both the pump housing and the cover. Seems like things could get misaligned easily and cause binding but maybe the pump construction/design would prevent that from happening?
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 27, 2014 10:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

SBD wrote:
I'm guessing that the pin is in the gear and that it has a locating hole in both the pump housing and the cover. Seems like things could get misaligned easily and cause binding but maybe the pump construction/design would prevent that from happening?


maybe those two little holes one on the top left and one at the lower right are locating dowels, which is what im thinking your suggesting... im gonna be an old kodger and say "I dont like it" lol Laughing
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 27, 2014 12:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The pin is removable. I am mostly concerned with the puller not fitting. Usually there is the space for the two gears and then a sort of chevron shaped hole in the middle into which the puller goes. Then you just turn the puller and it is locked in. This one has no chevron, so the puller has no way to get into the two holes on the sides of the pump. This is probably quite confusing and I can draw a picture if need be.
The leak may well be at the pulley.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 27, 2014 4:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That would be my guess, it's at the pulley. Unless it has grooves like stock, which most aftermarket pulleys don't, it will leak.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 27, 2014 6:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Too hard to tell from the picture. It's most likely dripping from between the pump housing and the case. The pump puller should work fine, when you plug oil pumps, you screw in the plug from the outside of the housing(at least I do)
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 27, 2014 6:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Puller?? naw
clamp on two 5" vice grips and pull. If it burrs up the edges no biggie..... if it didn't need to be sanded flat then it probably would not be leaking either.
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