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PostPosted: Mon Feb 19, 2024 12:20 am    Post subject: Re: Rectangular E Code Headlight Upgrade-Hella Kit/Ford Buckets Reply with quote

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Cutting and shaping the fire buckets seems like a bad idea.
I bought two buckets and three retaining ring and I do not think it makes sense.
I am going to use aluminum plywood 'U' channel and sculpt it to sandwich the lip on either end of the new sealed beam. I am going to rivet these onto aluminum angle and either I will use the existing VW headlight adjusters or I will rivet a step off metal across the back of the headlight assembly and use rivet nuts to make my own adjusters
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 18, 2024 3:37 pm    Post subject: Re: Rectangular E Code Headlight Upgrade-Hella Kit/Ford Buckets Reply with quote

I am in the process of making the stock VW rectangular headlight metal bits accept a Hella E code head light.
Let's see how it goes..........
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 18, 2024 2:05 pm    Post subject: Re: Rectangular E Code Headlight Upgrade-Hella Kit/Ford Buckets Reply with quote

Cutting and shaping the fire buckets seems like a bad idea.
I bought two buckets and three retaining ring and I do not think it makes sense.
I am going to use aluminum plywood 'U' channel and sculpt it to sandwich the lip on either end of the new sealed beam. I am going to rivet these onto aluminum angle and either I will use the existing VW headlight adjusters or I will rivet a step off metal across the back of the headlight assembly and use rivet nuts to make my own adjusters

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 15, 2024 9:12 pm    Post subject: Re: Rectangular E Code Headlight Upgrade-Hella Kit/Ford Buckets Reply with quote

I have my rectangular lights out and i don't want to cut them. What about using a 'U' on either side of a replacement 6x7 headlight - to 'sandwich' the edge and then use the existing headlight adjusters except mount them in your new 'U' one for either side.

Would the 'U' on either side - and perhaps install and extra adjuster (so you are using 4) and perhaps a spring to draw the "U's together would that not be easier to fabricate??
I am sure I am not seeing something - and I am not a fabricator - but I am imagining I can get a piece of metal bent into a 'U' and shape it with my angle grinder
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 28, 2021 2:19 am    Post subject: Re: Rectangular E Code Headlight Upgrade-Hella Kit/Ford Buckets Reply with quote

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After reading this post and all the other versions of doing this upgrade I thought I'd give a go at my idea of making the conversion.

I had two broke lenses already and so i broke out all the glass. I cut the mounting flange off the back of the broken lens but only enough to fit over the new H4. As you can see in the photos that the new H4 fit just right in the original lens housing. I carefully marked and drilled out the corners of the housing to mount it to the back of the H4 in the corners. The H4 corner holes needed to be drilled to an 1/8" hole to use an 1/8" steel pop rivet. As you can see fits just right. I then purchased all the new stock headlight adjusters and mounted the new conversion. I did just barely clearance the grill on the drivers side low beam but the fit is nice and uses the stock adjusters. I have yet to adjust but will report back and with close side shots.
So really the only cost is the new lights, bulbs, adjusters and pop rivets.

Hope this can help others.



Wow!
Back on March 16 I posted this, getting ready to reuse the VW headlamp bucket! ........

Now I don't need to blaze the path but simply follow your trail!

djkeev wrote:
Didn't do much today.
Other responsibilities and crappy weather.

I did investigate mounting my Hella eCodes using the original VW headlamp frames.

I smashed out the glass and used a heat gun to remove the sealer and glass shards adhered to the metal reflector.

No cuts, no blood!

Normally one would get headlamps from an old Ford Econoline or similar.

Now really? Where's the challenge in that?

Dave


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PostPosted: Sat Mar 27, 2021 6:13 pm    Post subject: Re: Rectangular E Code Headlight Upgrade-Hella Kit/Ford Buckets Reply with quote

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After reading this post and all the other versions of doing this upgrade I thought I'd give a go at my idea of making the conversion.

I had two broke lenses already and so i broke out all the glass. I cut the mounting flange off the back of the broken lens but only enough to fit over the new H4. As you can see in the photos that the new H4 fit just right in the original lens housing. I carefully marked and drilled out the corners of the housing to mount it to the back of the H4 in the corners. The H4 corner holes needed to be drilled to an 1/8" hole to use an 1/8" steel pop rivet. As you can see fits just right. I then purchased all the new stock headlight adjusters and mounted the new conversion. I did just barely clearance the grill on the drivers side low beam but the fit is nice and uses the stock adjusters. I have yet to adjust but will report back and with close side shots.
So really the only cost is the new lights, bulbs, adjusters and pop rivets.

Hope this can help others.
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 13, 2018 11:24 am    Post subject: Re: Rectangular E Code Headlight Upgrade-Hella Kit/Ford Buckets Reply with quote

oooops this is the e-code/Ford buckets DIY thread.

Edited my post & copied over to Bus Depot New Vanagon Rectangular headlamps
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 12, 2018 11:17 am    Post subject: Re: Rectangular E Code Headlight Upgrade-Hella Kit/Ford Buckets Reply with quote

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No smarter than your average bear..... taking note of the degree of difficulty required to line things up using an alternate lamp bucket, I thought why not use the VW lamp "bucket" which requires sawing apart the reflector portion of the VW lamp assembly.

I liked your idea of tapping those corner mount points, so my goal was to see if they would sit inside the VW lamp "bucket" that I fabricobbled with my die grinder. They fit perfectly. As you noticed, the front face of the headlamp sits well back from where the original tapered glass lens followed the curve of the grille, and the original adjustment points are intact, so no modification of the grille is necessary for clearance of the lense or accesss to the headlight adjusters.

Kudos to those before me that came up with the general idea.....



T3, how did everything turn out for you ? So, you used the vanagon oem modded headlamp bucket, stock adjusters, the beams from the Ford Focus ? I think I need to read back through the posts again make sure I got a bit of a shopping list based on how you did this mod ....
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 09, 2018 10:17 pm    Post subject: Re: Rectangular E Code Headlight Upgrade-Hella Kit/Ford Buckets Reply with quote

Same here! Except I'm on the West coast and they don't arrive until Friday...

I'm looking forward to better light looking forward!
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 09, 2018 9:15 pm    Post subject: Re: Rectangular E Code Headlight Upgrade-Hella Kit/Ford Buckets Reply with quote

Bus Depot shipped my E Code lights last week. I’m excited to get them in hand and try them out.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 06, 2018 9:46 am    Post subject: Re: Rectangular E Code Headlight Upgrade-Hella Kit/Ford Buckets Reply with quote

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Alaskaberrys wrote:
If I have an aftermarket headlight relay kit already installed like GoWesty's or T3's, which kit would we order? I'm assuming the Ultimate kit would just be replacing these? Would the Upgrade kit too? Trying to avoid duplicating parts (I've got T3's headlight kit) but would like to maximize the light.


If you already have a relay kit, all you need is the "upgraded" kit (which still includes a better wiring harness than you have now, so I recommend it over the basic kit). However it comes with 55/60 watt bulbs rather than the 90/100 watt bulbs that come with the Ultimate kit, since it assumes you don't already have a relay kit that would support 90/100 watt bulbs. Since you do have one, you can use the brighter bulbs if you prefer. If you want them, they cost $14/pair more. On checkout, note that you'd like the 90/100 watt bulbs and are willing to pay the $14 upcharge. When the kits come in you'll get an email or call, and you may want to reiterate it then too just to make sure the comment isn't overlooked in the hustle of packing and shipping so many of these kits all at once.


Hi Ron. I have an "upgraded kit" on order, and have been talking to Jay & Ryan trying to get my order noted to include the 90/100 watt bulbs, but they're having difficulty adding that to my order without a part number. Can you help?

I already have relays installed in my van so that's why I didn't order the "ultimate" kit.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 02, 2018 11:26 pm    Post subject: Re: Rectangular E Code Headlight Upgrade-Hella Kit/Ford Buckets Reply with quote

VicVan wrote:
Same here...
wesitarz, I'm in Victoria. Whereabouts are you?


I'm in Nanaimo/Chemainus and I did the DIY swap last year. Highly recommend it. Let me know if any of you island folk want to take a look at what I did.

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 02, 2018 11:32 am    Post subject: Re: Rectangular E Code Headlight Upgrade-Hella Kit/Ford Buckets Reply with quote

Same here...
wesitarz, I'm in Victoria. Whereabouts are you?
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 01, 2018 5:38 pm    Post subject: Re: Rectangular E Code Headlight Upgrade-Hella Kit/Ford Buckets Reply with quote

With a tanked Canadian dollar and expensive shipping to Canada, a DIY is the way to go for me. Is there a list of Ford or other vehicles to salvage the headlight buckets from?
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 30, 2017 8:02 pm    Post subject: Re: Rectangular E Code Headlight Upgrade-Hella Kit/Ford Buckets Reply with quote

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Alaskaberrys wrote:
If I have an aftermarket headlight relay kit already installed like GoWesty's or T3's, which kit would we order? I'm assuming the Ultimate kit would just be replacing these? Would the Upgrade kit too? Trying to avoid duplicating parts (I've got T3's headlight kit) but would like to maximize the light.


If you already have a relay kit, all you need is the "upgraded" kit (which still includes a better wiring harness than you have now, so I recommend it over the basic kit). However it comes with 55/60 watt bulbs rather than the 90/100 watt bulbs that come with the Ultimate kit, since it assumes you don't already have a relay kit that would support 90/100 watt bulbs. Since you do have one, you can use the brighter bulbs if you prefer. If you want them, they cost $14/pair more. On checkout, note that you'd like the 90/100 watt bulbs and are willing to pay the $14 upcharge. When the kits come in you'll get an email or call, and you may want to reiterate it then too just to make sure the comment isn't overlooked in the hustle of packing and shipping so many of these kits all at once.


Thanks for the info, putting my preorder (with notes) in now.
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 30, 2017 9:28 am    Post subject: Re: Rectangular E Code Headlight Upgrade-Hella Kit/Ford Buckets Reply with quote

Alaskaberrys wrote:
If I have an aftermarket headlight relay kit already installed like GoWesty's or T3's, which kit would we order? I'm assuming the Ultimate kit would just be replacing these? Would the Upgrade kit too? Trying to avoid duplicating parts (I've got T3's headlight kit) but would like to maximize the light.


If you already have a relay kit, all you need is the "upgraded" kit (which still includes a better wiring harness than you have now, so I recommend it over the basic kit). However it comes with 55/60 watt bulbs rather than the 90/100 watt bulbs that come with the Ultimate kit, since it assumes you don't already have a relay kit that would support 90/100 watt bulbs. Since you do have one, you can use the brighter bulbs if you prefer. If you want them, they cost $14/pair more. On checkout, note that you'd like the 90/100 watt bulbs and are willing to pay the $14 upcharge. When the kits come in you'll get an email or call, and you may want to reiterate it then too just to make sure the comment isn't overlooked in the hustle of packing and shipping so many of these kits all at once.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 27, 2017 12:46 pm    Post subject: Re: Rectangular E Code Headlight Upgrade-Hella Kit/Ford Buckets Reply with quote

Does anyone have a passenger side (LH) housing in poor condition they would like to sell, cracked or no lens OK. My driver side is poor so I don't mind disassembling that one to use the mounting features per T3's process but my passenger side is great and I figure someone can use that one so I hate to disassemble for the upgrade.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 26, 2017 4:33 pm    Post subject: Re: Rectangular E Code Headlight Upgrade-Hella Kit/Ford Buckets Reply with quote

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We will have bolt-on direct replacement E-code H4 headlight assemblies for '86-up Vanagons, in early 2018.
You can find details at http://www.busdepot.com/255941105kit.
The kit includes everything you need for a simple conversion.
The price on the listing (as of this post) is for pre-orders only and will be going up once our pre-order allotment is spoken for.


Figured I'd ask this question here instead of directly on BusDepot website as others may have similar question.

If I have an aftermarket headlight relay kit already installed like GoWesty's or T3's, which kit would we order? I'm assuming the Ultimate kit would just be replacing these? Would the Upgrade kit too? Trying to avoid duplicating parts (I've got T3's headlight kit) but would like to maximize the light.
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 03, 2017 10:10 am    Post subject: Re: Rectangular E Code Headlight Upgrade-Hella Kit/Ford Buckets Reply with quote

That bus depot kit looks like the ticket! Figures that would come out about 4 months after I dropped almost a grand to move over to round LED's.

I whacked a deer on my way to Moab about a year ago and unfortunately, along with a fair amount of other damage, cracked my drivers side E-code....soooper bummed cause those headlights are the bomb. Anyway, finding a replacement proved very difficult at the time so after I got my insurance check, I reluctantly decided to jump ship and go for the SA grill & round lights. I actually much prefer the look of the stock rectangles too.

Anyway...I now have a full rectangular kit in my garage that will never get used if any of you guys are interested. All 4 light work fine - just the drivers lens got cracked, buckets & adjusters are all good I think. Shoot me a PM or I'll check back here.
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 03, 2017 6:10 am    Post subject: Re: Rectangular E Code Headlight Upgrade-Hella Kit/Ford Buckets Reply with quote

VicVan wrote:
Exactly what i was looking for ! Thanks Jim

Is the H4 from your picture a square headlight with a H4 mod you did yourself?


Yes. My version of this mod is described on page 4 of this thread. A year and a half later it’s still working well. Highly recommended.


Corwyn: It’ll be nice to see your van returning to stock configuration. I think the rectangles just plain look better on a boxy van compared to round headlights.
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