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syncrodoka Samba Member
Joined: December 27, 2005 Posts: 12008 Location: Santa Cruz, CA
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Posted: Sun Feb 02, 2014 10:10 pm Post subject: How to dye brown plastic parts black |
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I needed a black heater plate that mounts behind the shifter without the horizontal cutouts in the face for my truck with the floor ductwork to the back seats. They are difficult to find in any color in the US but the early diesel vanagons had them in brown and after a long search I got one.
I went the dye route because it is permanent and when it gets scratched the plastic underneath is black not brown.
A large enough plastic container for the part was located and it got soaked in hot tap water for a while to get the part warmed up, then the water was dumped. It got refilled part way with hot tap water then the rest was filled with water that was heated on the stovetop and the RIT fabric dye was added.
The part soaked overnight and when it came out it was definitely black not brown any longer.
The scary part is that I needed to cut out a large notch in the center for the syncro locker panel in the hard to find part but in doing so I was able to confirm that the dye had soaked through and it is now a black part.
I used 2 bottles of dye to make sure that the part got the color since gallons of water were added to cover the part. The dye cost about $3 each and the process was really easy and gave me great results.
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IdahoDoug Samba Member
Joined: June 12, 2010 Posts: 10251 Location: N. Idaho
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Posted: Sun Feb 02, 2014 10:38 pm Post subject: |
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Wow, that's amazing. I recently had a RIT fail trying to dye some automotive carpet. Didn't even touch the carpet - no effect at all. I've used it a half dozen times with success, so guess it was rayon or st. Anyhow wow your part looks great! _________________ 1987 2WD Wolfsburg Vanagon Weekender "Mango", two fully locked 80 Series LandCruisers. 2017 Subaru Outback boxer. 1990 Audi 90 Quattro 20V with rear locking differential, 1990 burgundy parts Vanagon. 1984 Porsche 944, 1988 Toyota Supra 5 speed targa, 2002 BMW 325iX, 1982 Toyota Sunrader |
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purplepeopleeater Samba Member
Joined: July 23, 2005 Posts: 3117 Location: E. Washington
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Posted: Mon Feb 03, 2014 7:38 am Post subject: |
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Nice, too bad I have a ton of black stuff I WANT brown |
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alaskadan Samba Member
Joined: January 09, 2013 Posts: 1858 Location: anchor pt. alaska
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Posted: Mon Feb 03, 2014 8:47 am Post subject: |
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Wow, I had no idea that would work. I would've bet money it would'nt work. I had always used SEM plastic prep and paint. So that specific plastic is water permeable? |
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dhaavers Samba Member
Joined: March 19, 2010 Posts: 7757 Location: NE MN (tinyurl.com/dhaaverslocation)
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Posted: Mon Feb 03, 2014 8:50 am Post subject: |
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purplepeopleeater wrote: |
Nice, too bad I have a ton of black stuff I WANT brown |
DITTO! SAVE THE BROWN!
Just ask some of us tan interior guys... _________________ 86 White Wolfsburg Westy Weekender
"The WonderVan"
<EDITED TO PROTECT INNOCENT PIXELS> |
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insyncro Banned
Joined: March 07, 2002 Posts: 15086 Location: New York
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Posted: Mon Feb 03, 2014 9:56 am Post subject: |
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Looks great.
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schenks13 Samba Member
Joined: May 26, 2011 Posts: 87 Location: New England
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Posted: Mon Feb 03, 2014 10:34 am Post subject: |
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that looks fantastic!
now, how to do this with the large plastic Carat panels _________________ ******************************************
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'07 Rabbit
'94 Jetta
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Gunldesnapper Samba Member
Joined: July 16, 2013 Posts: 147 Location: Murika
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Posted: Mon Feb 03, 2014 12:55 pm Post subject: |
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Now that is an interesting idea schenks13. My panels look like crap!
Looks great syncodoka. _________________ 1990 Vanagon Carat "Pig"
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schenks13 Samba Member
Joined: May 26, 2011 Posts: 87 Location: New England
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Posted: Mon Feb 03, 2014 1:00 pm Post subject: |
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I've painted mine, and it's does not seem the same as the part that syncrodoka dyed. Mine look like painted panels...his looks like black plastic. _________________ ******************************************
'87 Syncro High Roof
'07 Rabbit
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joetiger Samba Member
Joined: January 27, 2005 Posts: 5078 Location: denver
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Posted: Mon Feb 03, 2014 1:11 pm Post subject: |
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This is a great idea! I'm slowly transitioning my brown interior bits to black, and it would be a lot cheaper to just dye what I have.
Was there any bleeding afterwards? Did everything dry out and not cause any mess?
I'm curious because it seems like there'd be a possibility that you dye it black then you get black hands every time you handle the pieces. I'm also wondering if there would be any bleed-out when it gets really hot in the interior. Could just be me thinking too much, though. _________________ Joe T.
'86 NAHT Vanagon GL Syncro/ supercharged ABA 2.0 "Pigpen"
'04 GTI 1.8T
'04 Golf R32
"get metaphysical with it. if it's simply a means to get to and from places, it will let you down. if it becomes your zen, it can't fail you." -dabaron
"Still, it's good to be afield."--VWagabond
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syncrodoka Samba Member
Joined: December 27, 2005 Posts: 12008 Location: Santa Cruz, CA
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Posted: Mon Feb 03, 2014 2:40 pm Post subject: |
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I forgot to mention that the part needs to be rinsed off after the dye bath with cold water.
This part is newly dyed and it doesn't leech out any color. I have handled the part plenty and the only color that i got on my hands was from the dye bath. If the dye method didn't take i was ready to use other methods but it worked great so i mentioned it.
My son's RC car chassis has been dyed from grey to black for over a year and it has never been a problem. This technique is more commonplace in that hobby since they are almost all plastic.
If there is ever a issue with the color leeching i will update the thread but my past experience with the process makes me believe that it isn't a problem. |
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DAV!D Samba Member
Joined: September 10, 2013 Posts: 979 Location: EL CAMINO
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Posted: Mon Feb 03, 2014 2:50 pm Post subject: |
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That's actually a great idea and it looks good too. When I was a teenager I had a remote control car, that I died the white nylon parts blue and it worked great. I would have never thought you could do the same thing with hard plastic like that. _________________ 86 Syncro Build - Ecotec Motor Swap - Pop Top Conversion - Camper Build & Syncro Conversion |
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Syncro Jael Samba Member
Joined: December 19, 2013 Posts: 2204 Location: Utah
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Posted: Mon Feb 03, 2014 2:54 pm Post subject: |
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Great! Now I know how to make that extra brown grab handle I have black for another 87 Westy!
Thanks! I never would have thought Dye would work, just plastic paint.
Woo Hoo! _________________ 1987 Syncro Westfalia Hightop - NAHT
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furrylittleotter Samba Member
Joined: May 19, 2008 Posts: 1506 Location: West Seattle
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Posted: Mon Feb 03, 2014 8:50 pm Post subject: |
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Very cool. I have a fuel cell in my kit car I will be trying this on!
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FNGRUVN Samba Member
Joined: October 27, 2007 Posts: 2237 Location: Fort Collins, CO
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Posted: Tue Feb 04, 2014 8:58 am Post subject: |
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Nice job. Hope it works out in the long run.
I'll stick with SEM trim paint, though. My OG brown steering wheel is still nice and black after about seven years. Same goes for the dash, shifter boot, arm rests and every other plastic bit in the van.
I'm not knocking what you have done, just giving a testimonial for another option for parts that can't be soaked. _________________ "Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch. Liberty is a well-armed lamb contesting the vote." - Benjamin Franklin |
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61Scout Samba Member
Joined: November 06, 2011 Posts: 1297 Location: Shoreline/Yakima WA
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