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ORANGECRUSHer Samba Member
Joined: June 09, 2006 Posts: 2668 Location: West Coast (Michigan's)
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Posted: Mon Feb 03, 2014 11:15 am Post subject: brake calipers with parking brake |
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Just wondered if anyone had any idea what vehicles used a rear brake caliper with a cable parking brake actuator that I might be able to find off a salvage vehicle in a yard? I'm not interested in kit calipers unless you can get a pair for under $150 and they work.
I happen to have two cars so far. Nissan Sentra and mid-eighties Cadillacs.
Hoping to increase my odds of finding something in the crappy yards around me.. _________________ Brian H.
I may not know everything,but I will try to help if I can
OrangeCrushER Berrien Warrior 2.4L Quad4
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Hamsterben Samba Member
Joined: December 05, 2011 Posts: 238 Location: Kooskia Idaho
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Posted: Mon Feb 03, 2014 11:43 am Post subject: |
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The Porsche 914 has a cable parking brake. Try camp 914 they are in Oregon when I worked there we had a box full of rear calipers. http://www.camp914.com/ |
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Steve Arndt Samba Member
Joined: August 01, 2005 Posts: 1780 Location: Boise, Idaho
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Posted: Mon Feb 03, 2014 11:55 am Post subject: |
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914 rear calipers are very expensive.
The rear brake kits use jetta type rear brake calipers. Late 80s to late 90s type vw cars use them. Very common parts. |
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tripicana Samba Member
Joined: February 13, 2003 Posts: 1164 Location: colorado springs
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Posted: Mon Feb 03, 2014 12:09 pm Post subject: |
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Porsche 944 non aluminum trailing arm discs are a direct bolt on to type1 trailing arms. They are in the junkyard all the time, cable parking brake too. _________________ foam cowboy hats aren't good helmets. |
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doom buggy Samba Member
Joined: July 22, 2012 Posts: 69 Location: ocala,fl
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94-04 ford mustangs,usually pleanty in the u-pull it yards to be had cheap.,v-6 or v-8 cars have them. _________________ 2 seater street legal rail buggy
stock 1600dp,stinger exhaust,31x15.50 terra tires,irs conversion with type 4 cv joints,boxed arms,rear disc brakes,dual circuit master cyl,thing trans,empi trigger shifter,empi breather,electronic svda dist.,outerwears pre-filter,swingaxle torsion bars,aluminum pulley,work in progress |
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wbrown45 Samba Member
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Posted: Mon Feb 03, 2014 5:33 pm Post subject: |
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The second generation Ford Taurus upper level models had disc brakes on the rear until 2000. They are made by Varga. I used a set on my son's Baja and with a little tweaking they fit into the same brackets as Ghia calipers. _________________ OK Thang |
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ORANGECRUSHer Samba Member
Joined: June 09, 2006 Posts: 2668 Location: West Coast (Michigan's)
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Posted: Tue Feb 04, 2014 6:06 am Post subject: |
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You gave me a lot more response than Ii thought I'd get, thanks
I've already bought some non-vented rotors and with my Avery's trailing arms I can not use a caliper bracket made for VWs - I'll have to custom fab my own from what ever comes with whatever caliper I end up getting.
The mustang or taurus units are prolly the most likely to be found in my parts.
thanks again for the suggestions and ideas.. _________________ Brian H.
I may not know everything,but I will try to help if I can
OrangeCrushER Berrien Warrior 2.4L Quad4
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ORANGECRUSHer Samba Member
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Posted: Tue Feb 04, 2014 8:58 am Post subject: |
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Inspired to keep looking I found some Audi S4 calipers on Amazon for $38/pair. Of course being Amazon they only had the driver side on sale, so I'll be working with two left side calipers. Doesn't really matter considering what I'm doing.
party on _________________ Brian H.
I may not know everything,but I will try to help if I can
OrangeCrushER Berrien Warrior 2.4L Quad4
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Steve Arndt Samba Member
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Posted: Tue Feb 04, 2014 10:33 am Post subject: |
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tripicana wrote: |
Porsche 944 non aluminum trailing arm discs are a direct bolt on to type1 trailing arms. They are in the junkyard all the time, cable parking brake too. |
944 have drum rear parking brake inside of the rotor hat. Very heavy and adds almost 1" of offset. |
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ORANGECRUSHer Samba Member
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no1clyde Samba Member
Joined: August 27, 2013 Posts: 365 Location: Elko Nv.
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Posted: Tue Feb 04, 2014 11:41 am Post subject: |
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I had a few older Subaru cars that had front disk breaks with cable parking brakes also.
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no1clyde Samba Member
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Posted: Tue Feb 04, 2014 8:22 pm Post subject: |
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Also my Dodge Stealth has 4 wheel disc brakes and a parking brake but it has been such a good car I have not had to work on the brakes LOL.
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ORANGECRUSHer Samba Member
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Posted: Wed Feb 05, 2014 7:09 am Post subject: |
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I think stealths have the drum in rotor arrangement because the rear calipers have no provision for a cable that I saw.
I spent at least an hour going through all the makes on Rock Auto's sight checking out pictures of rear calipers. Ugh!
I hope the audi calipers work though. I went for them first because they were less than $20 a piece, second they came with mounting brackets, and finally because they are not bulky and the parking lever looks like it could easily be reworked to accept what ever cable I choose coming from any direction. I may need to make a spacer to put behind a pad; I'm not sure yet if these are used with vented rotors which are thicker, but I'd guess they are.
Now I just have to poke some studs into my rotors and I'm in business! _________________ Brian H.
I may not know everything,but I will try to help if I can
OrangeCrushER Berrien Warrior 2.4L Quad4
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heywebonya Samba Member
Joined: July 08, 2010 Posts: 823 Location: Portage, MI
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Posted: Mon May 02, 2016 10:59 am Post subject: Re: brake calipers with parking brake |
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Ressurecting an old thread, did you complete the build of the audi disc brake build?
Any pictures?
Thank you _________________ If I knew what I was doing; I wouldn't be building a buggy! |
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mattfarmer Samba Member
Joined: May 10, 2011 Posts: 74 Location: fresno ca
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Posted: Tue May 03, 2016 9:29 am Post subject: Re: brake calipers with parking brake |
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I've been trying to figure out what to do for an ebrake/parking brake... My baja has the 3x3 empi micro stub kit w/ wilwood 4 piston brakes from Pacific Customs, I didn't know it when I bought them, but there's no ebrake attachment for it that they sell. So far the only ideas I have are the Empi hydraulic park lock (not very good), and making my own cable ebrake with a wilwood Spot brake that kart racers use. |
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firehorse02 Samba Member
Joined: December 22, 2009 Posts: 77 Location: Tehachapi, Ca
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Posted: Tue May 03, 2016 6:01 pm Post subject: Re: brake calipers with parking brake |
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My rail has a line lock, haven't had any issues yet |
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ORANGECRUSHer Samba Member
Joined: June 09, 2006 Posts: 2668 Location: West Coast (Michigan's)
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Posted: Mon May 09, 2016 4:22 am Post subject: Re: brake calipers with parking brake |
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Sorry, I've been busy as hell lately.
I finished fabbing the audi calipers onto my trailing arms and they work. My rig is still in the final assembly stages so I haven't had any real world testing on them. I encourage people to do some research and find a better caliper to use than this audi caliper. The audi is made for a vented rotor so it's too wide for any rotor made to work on the VW. I modified the brake pad bracket so there was more travel for the pad to reach my rotor and I have to double up pads on one side of the caliper to take up the space. In my case I don't see a problem with that but it's a trade-off I've made to make my experiment work. Someone who looks at it may think it's kinda wacky to have two pads stacked up if they don't understand I was making $16 calipers fit my application.
As far as the e-brake side of it, I did not get into working on that because my build is getting long in the tooth. I can always fashion some cables to work later. In hindsight, I don't think e-brake is worth the effort unless maybe you live someplace like San Fransisco.
I think I need to play with master cylinder sizing. The 3/4" seemed to have too much throw so I might go to the next size down.
As for the line lock, I just picked one up for my baja the other day just haven't felt like plumbing it in yet. _________________ Brian H.
I may not know everything,but I will try to help if I can
OrangeCrushER Berrien Warrior 2.4L Quad4
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TDCTDI Samba Advocatus Diaboli
Joined: August 31, 2013 Posts: 12856 Location: North Carolina
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Posted: Mon May 09, 2016 6:17 am Post subject: Re: brake calipers with parking brake |
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Any '98 to '05 golf, Jetta, beetle has nice light weight aluminum calipers with a parking brake actuator.
Just be sure to grab the caliper bracket too (8mm Allen sockets.). _________________ Everybody born before 1975 has a story, good, bad, or indifferent, about a VW.
GOFUNDYOURSELF, quit asking everyone to do it for you!
An air cooled VW will make you a hoarder.
Do something, anything, to your project every day, and you will eventually complete it. |
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ORANGECRUSHer Samba Member
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TDCTDI Samba Advocatus Diaboli
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Posted: Tue May 10, 2016 5:59 am Post subject: Re: brake calipers with parking brake |
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Yes sir. & they'd be very compatible with 914 rotors. The first pic is one from a Jetta, the second pic is one mounted to a '05 Passat, so '98-05 passats are a source also. Earlier golfs, jettas, & passats are also viable but they will be iron. _________________ Everybody born before 1975 has a story, good, bad, or indifferent, about a VW.
GOFUNDYOURSELF, quit asking everyone to do it for you!
An air cooled VW will make you a hoarder.
Do something, anything, to your project every day, and you will eventually complete it. |
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