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58Dub Samba Member
Joined: June 02, 2004 Posts: 1713 Location: Davison, MI
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Posted: Tue Mar 18, 2014 5:20 am Post subject: Cylinders and boost |
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Im looking for a little info from folks with experience.... With my current build, I am planning on using AA thickwall 92 cyls, run E85 FI and a turbo. This will be my first turbo... so Im no expert. I keep debating if I should stick with this plan or switch to 94mm cyls and the squishy pistons from Aircooled.net. I have read stories of people cracking cyls from boost,... but how much boost will a 94mm cyl take on a regular basis? This will be a street car and not just a limited use drag car.
Any feedback would be appreciated
Matt _________________ 58 Beetle (now just a pile of parts in the corner)
60 Beetle (2221 turbo under construction)
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VWCOOL Samba Member
Joined: June 02, 2006 Posts: 1821 Location: Down under
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Posted: Tue Mar 18, 2014 5:34 am Post subject: |
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My engine builder Stan Pobjoy runs (I think) 20psi through his 1916 from an ex-Mustang Eaton blower. It's in an open wheeler and runs injected meth |
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madmike Samba Member
Joined: July 11, 2005 Posts: 5292 Location: Atlanta,Michigan
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Posted: Tue Mar 18, 2014 5:54 am Post subject: |
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Hey Matt, I've runn 15-18lbs without issues _________________ 'Black Ice'Drag Buggy 'Turbo'
Rail Buggy 1915 turbo
76 Drag/Street bug 2180cc 'Turbo' 11:85 @113 mph"If I go any faster I'll burn up the Hamster" ,gets 28 mpg. also 10/09/22 11.90 @115 mph
"If I'm ever on Life Support,UNPLUG Me, Then Plug me back In see if that Works" |
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mark tucker Samba Member
Joined: April 08, 2009 Posts: 23937 Location: SHALIMAR ,FLORIDA
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Posted: Tue Mar 18, 2014 9:44 am Post subject: |
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a lot of new cylinders are jagged on the top id and or od.get rid of the jagged edges and you have a lot less chance of spliting/cracking them. I have a set of AA's that are horriffic. |
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modok Samba Member
Joined: October 30, 2009 Posts: 26790 Location: Colorado Springs
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Posted: Tue Mar 18, 2014 4:53 pm Post subject: |
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Go 94 and get the squishy pistons.
It is true that with more heat and compression the service life of the cylinder will be shorter, but cracking one is almost always a detonation problem, no matter if they admit it or not. |
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yamaducci Samba Member
Joined: March 30, 2010 Posts: 2335 Location: Mount Airy, Maryland
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Posted: Thu Mar 20, 2014 11:56 am Post subject: |
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I have split an AA cylinder with boost and too much heat. You won't be running reliably anything more than about 12Lbs on the street so you should be fine as long as your cooling system is up to par and your timing never allows detonation. Both combinations are great. The thickwalled Turbo or the squishy 94's. I went with wiseco's and 94's but if I was really going for reliability I would have gone with thicker cylinders for the insurance. _________________ -John Cox
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