Opinions on re-using this case?

Ohio_Style · Posted: Thu Mar 20, 2014 12:59 pm Post subject: Opinions on re-using this case?

I am building a 1641 for a buddy and the engine he brought me to start with has some interesting repairs already done to it. It has a VEGE tag over the original engine number, so I am going to assume they did this.

On either side of the oil pan, around .07 has been machined off and thin steel sheets were installed with roll pins and it looks like some sort of adhesive. Both of the patches were rusty and torn up, one stayed with the sled tin.

My opinion is that we should junk the case and replace it, I'm leery about how thick the case is now at that point and the fact that the ears for the sled tin are basically toast, it's not worth messing with.

Anyone run into this before? I have torn down a ton of engines and this is the first time I have encountered anything like this.

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Glenn · Posted: Thu Mar 20, 2014 1:19 pm Post subject:

Looks like the outside has been exposed to water. If the inside is like that, its trash.
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Danwvw · Posted: Thu Mar 20, 2014 1:26 pm Post subject:

Why would someone put those metal strips on the case like that? If it is oxidized so bad that it was leaking oil there I would not use it even if it's ok inside.
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Ohio_Style · Posted: Thu Mar 20, 2014 1:31 pm Post subject:

The engine oil was surprisingly clean, the pushrod tubes were rusty on the outside, but pretty clean on the inside. The bus had been sitting for a while in a yard, so it has been exposed to the elements.

I've had 2 other VEGE engines apart and this one was similar to them, nice set of repaired heads and dished 85.5 pistons, I assumed they did good work from their other engines I have opened up.

I really think I'm going to use a different case, I was just making sure I wasn't out of the loop and this is something normal.
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roundhouse72 · Posted: Thu Mar 20, 2014 1:49 pm Post subject:

Looks like my old camper needs a new case huh.....oh well.

[email protected] · Posted: Thu Mar 20, 2014 3:00 pm Post subject:

It was a common practice up North that if the sled tin attachment areas of the case were corroded, or damaged, a thin steel plate was attached to the side of the case with either tapped holes/inserts to replace the damaged areas to bolt the tins back on. There's probably nothing wrong with the case, other than the little sled tin ears are missing. If you don't want to use it, if it checks out internally, I'm sure there's lots of buggy guys that don't run sled tins that would buy it off of you.

Danwvw · Posted: Thu Mar 20, 2014 3:05 pm Post subject:

I was thinking about buying this one but is is closer to you! http://www.thesamba.com/vw/classifieds/detail.php?id=1614051 But you probably won't need the rear mount!
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Ohio_Style · Posted: Thu Mar 20, 2014 3:34 pm Post subject:

Ohio_Style · Posted: Thu Mar 20, 2014 3:36 pm Post subject:

nsracing · Posted: Fri Mar 21, 2014 4:38 pm Post subject:

I have seen those before at the shop. GEX specials. They machine the side down and install this side metal plate w/ blind rivets so you can attach the sleds again.

It is not really necessary to machine it down that much. A new ear can be made or another piece of mag welded on there. Or just build up the worn area and re-tap. I know that is the expensive way to do it since it includes prep work and welding then machining. But the right was is not the easy way.

It might make a nice buggy engine.

But you want a much better case than that for sedan/bus use. Plenty around. just look a little more.

Ohio_Style · Posted: Fri Mar 21, 2014 6:37 pm Post subject:

I cracked it open today. The oil pump was so seized into the case that I had to break the ears off of it and split the case with it still in there, then knock it loose with a 3 pound sledge. Once I cleaned more gunk off, the sides of the case are pretty cooked too, it's scrap
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