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Jake Hoff Samba Member
Joined: February 22, 2008 Posts: 166 Location: Southeast, South Dakota
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Posted: Tue Apr 01, 2014 9:59 am Post subject: 2036cc edited here's some pieces of it |
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I have never had anything other than 1600 DP that I have messed with. But I am buying a Baja that the owner said had a 2036 cc engine in it I have not seen it up close but the picture is dark but I can make out it is not a type
4 block
I have searched that number here and in google but can not fin a kit that would make it
Being somewhat ignorant in aftermarket motors and kits I was wondering how they could have accomplished it
I will be picking it up in the few weeks and will post some pics etc of it
Thanks
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Alstrup Samba Member
Joined: July 12, 2007 Posts: 7218 Location: Videbaek Denmark
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Posted: Tue Apr 01, 2014 10:02 am Post subject: |
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90 x 80 mm. Odd and very rare combo.
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mark tucker Samba Member
Joined: April 08, 2009 Posts: 23937 Location: SHALIMAR ,FLORIDA
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Posted: Tue Apr 01, 2014 10:30 am Post subject: |
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try it out,if you like the way it feals...does it realy matter what size it is? |
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Jake Hoff Samba Member
Joined: February 22, 2008 Posts: 166 Location: Southeast, South Dakota
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Posted: Tue Apr 01, 2014 10:33 am Post subject: |
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Ok so it could be done thanks
I will probably get it home and try and start it and run it for awhile but if it gives any trouble I will tear it down and see what I have for guts
Would that be a stock stroke on the crank wih larger p&c's and cut heads
Or would they have had to change crank rods cam etc |
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sactojesse Samba Member
Joined: November 21, 2006 Posts: 2655 Location: Sacramento, California, USA
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Posted: Tue Apr 01, 2014 10:50 am Post subject: |
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A 1600 is 85.5 mm bore x 69 mm stroke. Absent a build sheet or receipts, I would assume that the engine is a 1600 and not pay based on the owner's word of mouth. _________________ 1966 Karmann-Ghia convertible |
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Jake Hoff Samba Member
Joined: February 22, 2008 Posts: 166 Location: Southeast, South Dakota
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Posted: Tue Apr 01, 2014 11:25 am Post subject: |
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Sound advise sactojesse.
I am getting it very reasonable so even if the motor is a bust it's ok |
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75smith Samba Member
Joined: July 09, 2011 Posts: 2275 Location: NH
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Posted: Tue Apr 01, 2014 11:50 am Post subject: |
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unless he is willing to pull a head and show some build receipts, the engine is always a 1600/1641-especially if it only has 1 carb on it _________________ My 1975 Beetle Build Updated 8-21-12
My engine build |
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[email protected] Samba Member
Joined: August 03, 2002 Posts: 12785 Location: Salt Lake City, Utah
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Posted: Tue Apr 01, 2014 1:34 pm Post subject: |
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Most 1835s are 1641s.
The only way to know is to tear it down. _________________ It's just advice, do whatever you want with it!
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vwracerdave Samba Member
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Posted: Tue Apr 01, 2014 1:55 pm Post subject: |
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If the engine was built more then 20 years ago it could very well be a 90x80 = 2036. 90mm pistons and 80mm cranks are very old combinations. _________________ 2017 Street Comp Champion - Thunder Valley Raceway Park - Noble, OK
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VWCOOL Samba Member
Joined: June 02, 2006 Posts: 1821 Location: Down under
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Posted: Tue Apr 01, 2014 2:17 pm Post subject: |
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How TRUE that is!! |
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scotth17 Samba Member
Joined: January 30, 2012 Posts: 335 Location: Bedford Texas
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Posted: Tue Apr 01, 2014 4:46 pm Post subject: |
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mark tucker wrote: |
try it out,if you like the way it feals...does it realy matter what size it is? |
I've been telling the wife that for years...
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mark tucker Samba Member
Joined: April 08, 2009 Posts: 23937 Location: SHALIMAR ,FLORIDA
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Posted: Wed Apr 02, 2014 8:56 am Post subject: |
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[email protected] wrote: |
Most 1835s are 1641s.
The only way to know is to tear it down. |
and whoo do they think there foolen.....and you paid what for that lame 1835 in the v8 world a 572 was a 427,a 496 was a 396,340 was a 273. |
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Rome Samba Member
Joined: June 02, 2004 Posts: 9653 Location: Pearl River, NY
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Posted: Wed Apr 02, 2014 6:44 pm Post subject: |
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20 yrs ago I bought a '69 Beetle parts car located in southern CT. It was advertised as having an 1835cc engine. It had a nice set of Dell'Orto 36DRLAs, a 36hp doghouse fan shroud, and some wacky rusty header. When I got it home and took the car apart (underside of the central frame spine was rotted where the pans are welded on but I saw that before buying it), then took the engine apart, it was really a... haha.. hahaha... 1600. In the PO's file that came with the car was a receipt from that G_ _ engine building company in Calif., who sent the "1835" per overnight freight That was 6 years before I bought the car, so that the PO "could have" removed the 1835 and just put in the 1600, thinking that the Dell's would legitimize the hi-performance aspect. Now even though the engine number was listed on the receipt, and I never bothered to see if the engine in the car was the same engine, at least I got a good set of Dell's. I do remember that the engine shortblock was still usable. I may even still have it now. |
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Jake Hoff Samba Member
Joined: February 22, 2008 Posts: 166 Location: Southeast, South Dakota
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Posted: Sun Apr 20, 2014 7:25 pm Post subject: |
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Tore the engine down last night
Mis matched heads
Ridge on cylinders
Looks like a spun rod bearing bearing on the crank
Also looks like some damage to a lifter bore and some type of damage to the case near a cylinder hole
Had a Norris 330s cam with hydraulic lifters
8 dowel crank
92 stamped pistons
My real question is is the block and crank salvageable
I will have to send this stuff off to machine it and don't want to spend the money if it's junk off the get go
There are pics of the lifter hole
The damage on the block
And of the crank so you can make a comment
What are your opinions on what I have
I did not buy the car for the motor more for the body but would like to save as much of the engine parts
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Jake Hoff Samba Member
Joined: February 22, 2008 Posts: 166 Location: Southeast, South Dakota
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Posted: Sun Apr 20, 2014 7:27 pm Post subject: |
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Also posted a pic of the bearing saddle
Hardly any wear there compared to some I have come across
I know the block is caca inside needs a good cleaning
Sludge and rust
I don't want to spend a lot of time on this I fits junk
Also it's a AK block |
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Quokka42 Samba Member
Joined: December 02, 2010 Posts: 3117 Location: Melbourne, Australia
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Posted: Sun Apr 20, 2014 7:34 pm Post subject: |
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If you can have those lifter bores sleeved the case might be OK with a line bore. Pull the plugs and give it a real good clean if you are going to do that, though. _________________ There has only ever been one man who was perfect, and they nailed Him to a cross. |
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Jake Hoff Samba Member
Joined: February 22, 2008 Posts: 166 Location: Southeast, South Dakota
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Posted: Sun Apr 20, 2014 8:00 pm Post subject: |
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I have another block so if I can't save it ok
Would you sleeve it if it was yours |
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Quokka42 Samba Member
Joined: December 02, 2010 Posts: 3117 Location: Melbourne, Australia
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Posted: Sun Apr 20, 2014 8:10 pm Post subject: |
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Yes, but they are expensive and hard to come by here. _________________ There has only ever been one man who was perfect, and they nailed Him to a cross. |
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modok Samba Member
Joined: October 30, 2009 Posts: 26789 Location: Colorado Springs
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Posted: Sun Apr 20, 2014 9:53 pm Post subject: |
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Jake Hoff wrote: |
Would you sleeve it if it was yours |
If otherwise good, heck yeah. |
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Matthew Samba Member
Joined: January 29, 2004 Posts: 1760 Location: Eastern Tennessee
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Posted: Wed Apr 23, 2014 6:46 pm Post subject: |
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Looks like a stock crank. You said 92 bore, so that makes it an 1835. What do the heads look like? _________________ 1965 Beetle sedan
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