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GeorgeO. Samba Member
Joined: October 08, 2010 Posts: 881 Location: Menifee, CA
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Posted: Wed Apr 09, 2014 11:13 am Post subject: Dodged a bullet! |
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Well doing my weekly inspection underneath the bus looking for leaks and the such and I was looking at my fuel line. OMG! The hose was nearly coming a part from the filter and oh what a disaster that would of been! The barb at the end of the filter was being held on by the suction on the pump and just a little by the clamp. Anybody had an issue with this new style hose, Gates 30r14, and what was your solution?
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Bala Samba Member
Joined: December 04, 2003 Posts: 2613 Location: Austin, TX
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Posted: Wed Apr 09, 2014 11:16 am Post subject: |
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Was the hose clamp just loose? The hose looks like it's still in good shape. _________________ 1976 Westy
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GeorgeO. Samba Member
Joined: October 08, 2010 Posts: 881 Location: Menifee, CA
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Posted: Wed Apr 09, 2014 11:19 am Post subject: |
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Tighten that thing really good but it seems that the hose is a little to spongy and doesn't really bite down on the hose like the braided stuff VW had produced previously! |
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Bala Samba Member
Joined: December 04, 2003 Posts: 2613 Location: Austin, TX
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Posted: Wed Apr 09, 2014 11:25 am Post subject: |
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Do you have the correct diameter hose?
I have Gates on my bus and everything looks fine after 1.5 years. I just checked everything out this past weekend. _________________ 1976 Westy
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BUSBOSS Samba Member
Joined: January 21, 2009 Posts: 2161 Location: Northern California
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Posted: Wed Apr 09, 2014 11:35 am Post subject: |
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Looks like that clamp might be a little too low also. _________________ All the redemption I can offer, girl, is beneath this dirty hood
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Joey Samba Member
Joined: August 12, 2005 Posts: 5366 Location: Nova Scotia - Canada
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Posted: Wed Apr 09, 2014 11:48 am Post subject: |
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BUSBOSS wrote: |
Looks like that clamp might be a little too low also. |
I agree. Move the clamp close to the end of the hose. In the position they're at now they are maybe just catching the end of the filter and by tightening the clamp it's pushing the filter out of the fuel line. _________________ Joey
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Danwvw Samba Member
Joined: July 31, 2012 Posts: 8892 Location: Oregon Coast
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Randy in Maine Samba Member
Joined: August 03, 2003 Posts: 34890 Location: The Beach
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Posted: Wed Apr 09, 2014 11:59 am Post subject: |
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I would suggest investing in a better filter.
Perhaps a Hastings GF-1 filter. Metal with 1/4" on each side. $5. |
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busdaddy Samba Member
Joined: February 12, 2004 Posts: 51128 Location: Surrey B.C. Canada, but thinking of Ukraine
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Posted: Wed Apr 09, 2014 12:05 pm Post subject: |
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Randy in Maine wrote: |
I would suggest investing in a better filter.
Perhaps a Hastings GF-1 filter. Metal with 1/4" on each side. $5. |
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rustybusjef Samba Member
Joined: December 19, 2011 Posts: 329 Location: EVERETT WASHINGTON
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Posted: Wed Apr 09, 2014 1:43 pm Post subject: |
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Don't be tempted to use the glass style of filter , they break . |
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Amskeptic Samba Member
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Posted: Wed Apr 09, 2014 3:05 pm Post subject: |
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The plastic inline filters work best with genuine 5mm German fuel hose. Do not overtighten clamps on these plastic filters, it can try to "squirt" the hose off the filter.
I have found new 5mm German braided fuel hose applied with a little carb spray as an installation lubricant sticks very well.
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GeorgeO. Samba Member
Joined: October 08, 2010 Posts: 881 Location: Menifee, CA
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Posted: Wed Apr 09, 2014 4:23 pm Post subject: |
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Bala wrote: |
Do you have the correct diameter hose?
I have Gates on my bus and everything looks fine after 1.5 years. I just checked everything out this past weekend. |
1/4 inch! If I go any smaller it will be tough to install my hose on the carb and fuel pump. |
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GeorgeO. Samba Member
Joined: October 08, 2010 Posts: 881 Location: Menifee, CA
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Posted: Wed Apr 09, 2014 4:25 pm Post subject: |
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BUSBOSS wrote: |
Looks like that clamp might be a little too low also. |
I was looking at that too. I also thought maybe engine vibration. |
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GeorgeO. Samba Member
Joined: October 08, 2010 Posts: 881 Location: Menifee, CA
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Posted: Wed Apr 09, 2014 4:28 pm Post subject: |
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I've seen these filters before and are they reliable and how do they perform with the 1/4 inch hose? |
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sambabus Samba Member
Joined: December 02, 2009 Posts: 324 Location: N. Cal
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Posted: Wed Apr 09, 2014 5:59 pm Post subject: |
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rustybusjef wrote: |
Don't be tempted to use the glass style of filter , they break . |
How did you manage to break one of those? _________________ 1971 Westy, 2017cc 78.4 x 90.5 Tims Stage 1 plus 42x37, CB 44IDF's, 135 mains, 175 airs, F111, 50 idles, Engle 110, 30mm, 009, single QP, DD CHT 300*f, VDO oil always 180* Build: http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=541370
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Danwvw Samba Member
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BUSBOSS Samba Member
Joined: January 21, 2009 Posts: 2161 Location: Northern California
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richparker Samba Member
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williamM Samba Member
Joined: August 07, 2008 Posts: 4333 Location: southwest Arizona
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Posted: Thu Apr 10, 2014 7:25 am Post subject: |
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Never like the glass filters- couldn't get the tension right for fear of breaking the glass- and they always leaked after a while - those billet ones look good. and have used the plastic ones for years with out a failure -but did change them out before they discolored or got plugged up. Never put clamps on them when using correct fuel line as that always was a crap shoot weather you do more harm than good- (FI is different) .
If that clamp set up had been done correctly- ie- hose on pass the "bump" on the end- and the clamp just starting to deform the rubber hose- I see no reason for a filter to slip the hoses when supported as well as that one. Just saying.
That Napa filter is a good one and come with a 90% nipple too. _________________ some days I get up and just sit and think. Some days I just sit.
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udidwht Samba Member
Joined: March 06, 2005 Posts: 3779 Location: Seattle, WA./ HB, Ca./ Shizuoka, Japan
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Posted: Fri Apr 11, 2014 8:41 am Post subject: |
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Nothing wrong with the filter your using (OP). I've been using them for well over 25 years without negative effect. What is wrong are the following:
1. Fuel hose is not on far enough. (Left side in photo).
2. Clamp is to far away from the edge of hose.
PS..it' always a good idea to use a filter between the tank outlet and pump given the crap (sediment) that is likely in the tank after all these years. It also extends the life of any fuel pump you may be running. _________________ 1972 Westy Hardtop/Type-4 2056cc
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