Transaxle tubes and gasket Quick help please :)

[electronictofu]

A couple Q's

1)
I have a pair of tubes for a 4.12 swing axle, I don't know which side is the drivers side, and which is the passenger side. these are long axles and tubes. It's going in a bus, I dont have much to reference and can't tell what goes where. I referenced a couple photos I think I have it, but if you know the numbers to double check this?

169 B
and
170 B

2)
These paper gaskets or "shims" are super thin. I hear use 2? I assume gasket sealer is used, should that be used in between each gasket so it isn't paper against paper? (The axle tube ring to the trans) Light gasket sealer, let it get tacky, then install? Sorry it's been ages since I did this.


169B is currently mocked up on drivers side which is where I think it goes.

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[Bobnotch]

[andk5591]

The number of gaskets sets how tight or loose the fit is. Seriously I never bothered with mocking it up and tearing it back apart. I just use 1 or 2 per side and use Permatex Right Stuff as the sealer. Cant help you on the other part.
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[electronictofu]

[electronictofu]

I didn't slide the gasket on until the tube and bearing were installed. So I had to cut the axle tube to trans gasket shim to get it on, I put the slit towards the top and an extra dab of gasket sealer. That should be ok shouldn't it? Someone tell me I don't have to pull it apart Being that its a "shim" gasket and the even slice is on the top I think its fine? I saw another install like that... hmm

[andk5591]

You should be OK with the slice at top if you used good sealer.
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Rosie 65 bug - My mostly stock daily driver.
Woodie 69 VW woodie (Hot VWs 7/12).
"John's car" 64 VW woodie - The first ever
Maxine 61 Cal-look bug - Cindy's daily driver.
Max - 73 standard Beetle hearse project - For sale
66 bug project - Real patina & Suby conversion
There's more, but not keeping them...

[davidw99]

[andk5591]

I really doesnt set up that fast. You want to work quickly, but if you can get it together with 5 minutes or so, you have no problems. And don't be real stingy with it. If its thicker it takes longer to set up. And its not like an engine where you are real worried about getting any inside the case. You want the sealer between each gasket and the mating surface. You can just put it on one side of the gasket, as long as the next gasket has sealer on the side that contacts the dry one.

This stuff is awesome but messy as hell. I try to use decent nitrile gloves when I do it, but still end up getting it on my fingers. And I cant stress enough making sure the flanges are really clean when you put it together. Any oil or anything may prevent a good seal. Don't know about you, but installing axle tubes is not my favorite thing, so I want to only do it once.

Another thing to be cautious of is the fulcrum plates getting out of position. I "glue" then in place with some bearing grease. Helps keep them from falling out.
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"John's car" 64 VW woodie - The first ever
Maxine 61 Cal-look bug - Cindy's daily driver.
Max - 73 standard Beetle hearse project - For sale
66 bug project - Real patina & Suby conversion
There's more, but not keeping them...

[davidw99]

Thank you. Like you, I only want to do this once. Also, thank you for the hint about "gluing" the fulcrum plates.
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[bluebus86]

for the covers that retain the axle tubes, use the correct number of gasket to assure the axle tube swiveling is not too loose, not too tight. Vary the number of gaskets until it is correct. you want free movement with no binding.

Good luck
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