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andrewschumi Samba Member
Joined: March 28, 2021 Posts: 13 Location: Cyprus
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Posted: Sun Dec 12, 2021 12:53 pm Post subject: Re: The Stupid Question Thread |
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Hi, my AB engine’s intake manifold was crack and my Bosch generator was dead, so I decided to strip my engine to the long block. That revealed me quite a lot of crude and thick dust layers everywhere.
As I don’t want to tear it down completely (no €€€ for the surprises that I will come by) is it a good idea
1) to waterblast it with a home pressure machine(cold water)?
2) Should I spray degreaser on it from the previous night?
3) inside the intakes there are some carbon deposits, how can I clean them? Scratching with a small screwdriver, Or a soft brush? Should I use a vacuum cleaner to suck the products before they get inside the cylinder?
From up the pictures you can see a lot of crude around the cylinder 1 base where it meets the engine case. If I clean it will I open a pandora box of leaks?
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Ulu Samba Member
Joined: April 21, 2020 Posts: 711 Location: CenCal
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Posted: Mon Dec 13, 2021 8:47 pm Post subject: Re: The Stupid Question Thread |
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Well I bought a VW style balljoint seperator, and I expect to find out soon myownself.
So far at least 6 people have told me, "Don't lower the car! Buy dropped spindles!" They don't seem to understand what "suspension topped out" means.
I'm only lowering it back to normal ride height. _________________ SS100 kit kar
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sb001 Samba Member
Joined: May 19, 2011 Posts: 10406 Location: NW Arkansas
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Posted: Thu Dec 16, 2021 6:42 am Post subject: Re: The Stupid Question Thread |
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andrewschumi wrote: |
As I don’t want to tear it down completely (no €€€ for the surprises that I will come by) is it a good idea
1) to waterblast it with a home pressure machine(cold water)?
2) Should I spray degreaser on it from the previous night?
3) inside the intakes there are some carbon deposits, how can I clean them? Scratching with a small screwdriver, Or a soft brush? Should I use a vacuum cleaner to suck the products before they get inside the cylinder?
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Others may disagree but I would plug every orifice around the block, remove the plugs and plug those holes with rags/ whatever, then get a can of oven cleaner and spray all over everything. Let it soak for a bit (maybe a couple hours) use a mid scouring brush to scrub hard to get to places or where there is a lot of buildup, then spray it all off with the pressure washer.
Then before starting it back up pull the drain plug make sure anything that got in the block has drained out then fill with fresh oil. Good to go! _________________ I'm the humblest guy on this board.
1969 autostick sedan, family owned since new
1600 SP engine
Solex 30 PICT 3 carburetor
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sb001 Samba Member
Joined: May 19, 2011 Posts: 10406 Location: NW Arkansas
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Posted: Thu Dec 16, 2021 6:44 am Post subject: Re: The Stupid Question Thread |
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Has anyone every tried ducting fresh air through the rear fenders some way to the cylinder heads to help with cooling? Not sure how this would be done, other than cutting actual slats in the sheet metal and using some kind of flex tubing. May not be possible- which is why I posted this in the "stupid questions" thread. _________________ I'm the humblest guy on this board.
1969 autostick sedan, family owned since new
1600 SP engine
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Weezle Samba Member
Joined: February 07, 2014 Posts: 685 Location: ORLANDO
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Posted: Thu Dec 16, 2021 7:04 am Post subject: Re: The Stupid Question Thread |
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heres my stoopid question. my alternator light wont go off. and my battery discharges while the engine is running. Its a new build and I have a new wiring harness as well but I noticed something: theres no ground wire on the body of the alternator. I see the screw but the harness didn't include a ground. Is that ground needed to extinguish the dash light and charge? Isn't the alternator grounded anyways by the alternator stand and strap? Thanks!
I checked already that the blue wiring running up to the dash is not shorted to ground. Like I said, new build, new alternator but I may have blown out a diode or something while setting everything up etc .etc. thanks. _________________ I got a fever, and the only prescription is more beetles!
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=604918&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0
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DurocShark Samba Member
Joined: April 05, 2004 Posts: 6624 Location: Crappy town in a crappy state. But the beach is nearby, so I have that going for me.
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Posted: Thu Dec 16, 2021 7:44 am Post subject: Re: The Stupid Question Thread |
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sb001 wrote: |
Has anyone every tried ducting fresh air through the rear fenders some way to the cylinder heads to help with cooling? Not sure how this would be done, other than cutting actual slats in the sheet metal and using some kind of flex tubing. May not be possible- which is why I posted this in the "stupid questions" thread. |
Your best bet would be to scoop more air directed into the fan shroud. That thing, along with the rest of the tins, will do a far better job of directing the air where it needs to be than we could.
Ram air for VWs! _________________ No boom today. Boom tomorrow. There's always a boom tomorrow. |
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Glenn Mr. 010
Joined: December 25, 2001 Posts: 76938 Location: Sneaking up behind you
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Posted: Thu Dec 16, 2021 8:03 am Post subject: Re: The Stupid Question Thread |
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DurocShark wrote: |
sb001 wrote: |
Has anyone every tried ducting fresh air through the rear fenders some way to the cylinder heads to help with cooling? Not sure how this would be done, other than cutting actual slats in the sheet metal and using some kind of flex tubing. May not be possible- which is why I posted this in the "stupid questions" thread. |
Your best bet would be to scoop more air directed into the fan shroud. That thing, along with the rest of the tins, will do a far better job of directing the air where it needs to be than we could.
Ram air for VWs! |
EMPI GTV scoops
_________________ Glenn
74 Beetle Specs | 74 Beetle Restoration | 2180cc Engine
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Cusser Samba Member
Joined: October 02, 2006 Posts: 31378 Location: Hot Arizona
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Posted: Thu Dec 16, 2021 9:01 am Post subject: Re: The Stupid Question Thread |
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Weezle wrote: |
heres my stoopid question. my alternator light wont go off. and my battery discharges while the engine is running. Its a new build and I have a new wiring harness as well but I noticed something: theres no ground wire on the body of the alternator. I see the screw but the harness didn't include a ground. Is that ground needed to extinguish the dash light and charge? Isn't the alternator grounded anyways by the alternator stand and strap? Thanks! |
If mine (I have generators) I would run a new/separate ground wire from your alternator body to a good ground.
Yes, the charge light bulb is important to have an alternator charge. Once you add your ground wire, a good test of your charging system is to check voltage across the battery terminals with engine running lie 2500 rpm: the voltage reading should then be about 13.5 to 14.5 volts.
NEVER REMOVE A BATTERY CABLE WHILE THE ENGINE IS RUNNING ON AN ALTERNATOR-EQUIPPED VEHICLE. _________________ 1970 VW (owned since 1972) and 1971 VW Convertible (owned since 1976), second owner of each. The '71 now has the 1835 engine, swapped from the '70. Second owner of each. 1988 Mazda B2200 truck, 1998 Frontier, 2014 Yukon, 2004 Frontier King Cab. All manual transmission except for the Yukon. http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/album_page.php?pic_id=335294 http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/album_page.php?pic_id=335297 |
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Weezle Samba Member
Joined: February 07, 2014 Posts: 685 Location: ORLANDO
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Posted: Thu Dec 16, 2021 9:19 am Post subject: Re: The Stupid Question Thread |
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Cusser wrote: |
Weezle wrote: |
heres my stoopid question. my alternator light wont go off. and my battery discharges while the engine is running. Its a new build and I have a new wiring harness as well but I noticed something: theres no ground wire on the body of the alternator. I see the screw but the harness didn't include a ground. Is that ground needed to extinguish the dash light and charge? Isn't the alternator grounded anyways by the alternator stand and strap? Thanks! |
If mine (I have generators) I would run a new/separate ground wire from your alternator body to a good ground.
Yes, the charge light bulb is important to have an alternator charge. Once you add your ground wire, a good test of your charging system is to check voltage across the battery terminals with engine running lie 2500 rpm: the voltage reading should then be about 13.5 to 14.5 volts.
NEVER REMOVE A BATTERY CABLE WHILE THE ENGINE IS RUNNING ON AN ALTERNATOR-EQUIPPED VEHICLE. |
thanks for that. will try the auxiliary ground wire to the body and test the voltage. and yup disconnecting battery is a no no for the alternator diodes. follow up later. _________________ I got a fever, and the only prescription is more beetles!
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=604918&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0
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Weezle Samba Member
Joined: February 07, 2014 Posts: 685 Location: ORLANDO
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Lingwendil Samba Member
Joined: February 25, 2009 Posts: 3988 Location: Antioch, California, a block from the hood
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sb001 Samba Member
Joined: May 19, 2011 Posts: 10406 Location: NW Arkansas
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Posted: Thu Dec 16, 2021 5:21 pm Post subject: Re: The Stupid Question Thread |
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Glenn wrote: |
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Hmmm. That is pretty interesting. aMakes sense to do it that way _________________ I'm the humblest guy on this board.
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vamram Samba Member
Joined: March 08, 2012 Posts: 7304 Location: NOVA
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Posted: Thu Dec 16, 2021 8:06 pm Post subject: Re: The Stupid Question Thread |
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sb001 wrote: |
Glenn wrote: |
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Hmmm. That is pretty interesting. aMakes sense to do it that way |
You have to cut a hole in the c-pillar behind that. How do you guide the air into the engine compartment? Do you also seal off the inside to keep the air and noise out of the passenger compartment? _________________ Eventually, "we are what we pretend to be.’”
Give peace a chance - Stop Russian-Soviet Aggression!!
'74 Super 9/16 - present, in refurb process.
'73 Super - 6/18 - Present - Daily Driver!
'75 Super Le Grande...waiting it's turn in line behind '74.
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Weezle Samba Member
Joined: February 07, 2014 Posts: 685 Location: ORLANDO
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Posted: Thu Dec 16, 2021 9:16 pm Post subject: Re: The Stupid Question Thread |
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Lingwendil wrote: |
New Bosch, or new Chinese reproduction? Lots of the reproduction ones are trash out of the box. |
its not Bosch because its 90 amp. I have A/C, oil cooler fan, LED headlights and a stereo.
I've tried both the standard 1.2watt beetle idiot light bulb and the star LED one with the "exciter" ie: a bulb incased in plastic run in parallel and none of these go out or let the battery charge. I see that porsche idiot light bulbs are 2w so I will try one of those. The engine builder said on the dyno the car had to be revved to get the alternators ass working so its persnickety, but when I rev the car the light stays lit.
then there is this: the factory harness had that large 4 lug connector under the rear seat. There the large red/white stripe wire from the B+ alternator lug connected to the same color wire going up to fuse 9 and ALSO to a lead that went directly to the battery. BUT the replacement harness didn't provide for that junction under the seat. instead that red/white stripe goes all the way to the fuse block and theres a separate lead from the alternatory B+ to the starter main (30) lug and then the battery is connected to that main lug also. I don't think this should affect the workings of the circuit any but what do I know?
Lastly, I had this crazy notion - I noticed that in my car, a 79 there is that weird odometer thingy in the trunk which is essentially an electrical switch that triggers every 30,000 miles and lights the EGR dash light telling you to change that filter. The way VW has this wired it also goes to the D+ lead at the alternator that the generator idiot light uses. That way both bulbs are tested at startup. Now I've removed that trunk mounted odometer already but.....was I careful to make sure none of those leads are touching body. ie: ground? Because that would allow the generator light to stay lit always. But I don't know if that would kill the charging circuit. too late to play with the car now but I'll answer that question tomorrow. I do believe the blue wire from alternator showed negative continuity to ground already however so that whole theory may be BS.....yeh the alternator is trashed _________________ I got a fever, and the only prescription is more beetles!
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=604918&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0
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calvinater Samba Member
Joined: September 06, 2014 Posts: 3330 Location: 802 The Pointless Forrest
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Posted: Fri Dec 17, 2021 3:34 am Post subject: Re: The Stupid Question Thread |
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sb001 wrote: |
Has anyone every tried ducting fresh air through the rear fenders some way to the cylinder heads to help with cooling? Not sure how this would be done, other than cutting actual slats in the sheet metal and using some kind of flex tubing. May not be possible- which is why I posted this in the "stupid questions" thread. |
Check out Floatingvws design for air scoops. _________________ "Albatross"! |
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sb001 Samba Member
Joined: May 19, 2011 Posts: 10406 Location: NW Arkansas
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Posted: Fri Dec 17, 2021 6:33 am Post subject: Re: The Stupid Question Thread |
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vamram wrote: |
You have to cut a hole in the c-pillar behind that. How do you guide the air into the engine compartment? Do you also seal off the inside to keep the air and noise out of the passenger compartment? |
Well to be fair, most of the 71-later beetles with the crescent vents already have holes in the C pillars _________________ I'm the humblest guy on this board.
1969 autostick sedan, family owned since new
1600 SP engine
Solex 30 PICT 3 carburetor
Bosch 113905205AE autostick distributor |
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Maddel Samba Member
Joined: February 12, 2013 Posts: 935
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Posted: Fri Dec 17, 2021 9:20 am Post subject: Re: The Stupid Question Thread |
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sb001 wrote: |
Has anyone every tried ducting fresh air through the rear fenders some way to the cylinder heads to help with cooling? Not sure how this would be done, other than cutting actual slats in the sheet metal and using some kind of flex tubing. May not be possible- which is why I posted this in the "stupid questions" thread. |
Off topic may be plus it's for Type 4 heads: Klaus Rückseitenkühlung
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stagewex Samba Member
Joined: November 17, 2021 Posts: 166 Location: New Rochelle, New York
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Posted: Tue Dec 21, 2021 12:02 pm Post subject: Re: The Stupid Question Thread |
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For my 1973 Super Beetle...
Do I have the correct jack or the correct bag it's supposed to go into?
Seems like one of them is wrong?
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vamram Samba Member
Joined: March 08, 2012 Posts: 7304 Location: NOVA
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Posted: Tue Dec 21, 2021 12:36 pm Post subject: Re: The Stupid Question Thread |
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Jack is right, bag is wrong.
Note about that jack - they're notorious for causing the jack mount section to "fold" your heather channel and side panel at that mount point if you lift the car just enough...better keep that for originality and get a decent scissors jack for real world usage.
https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=605114&highlight=jack+mount+bent _________________ Eventually, "we are what we pretend to be.’”
Give peace a chance - Stop Russian-Soviet Aggression!!
'74 Super 9/16 - present, in refurb process.
'73 Super - 6/18 - Present - Daily Driver!
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Maddel Samba Member
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Posted: Tue Dec 21, 2021 12:52 pm Post subject: Re: The Stupid Question Thread |
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stagewex wrote: |
For my 1973 Super Beetle...
Do I have the correct jack or the correct bag it's supposed to go into? |
Jack is stored under the rear seat, no need for a bag...
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