vent wings on my 50!

[bubba]

The vent wings on my bus have been "SouthAmericanized". They work great ,a lot of air flow. But i don't think at it was done by VW. It is not very hot in Uruguay:
CLIMATE: Uruguay has a temperate climate characterized by warm summers and mild winters. Rainfall is fairly evenly distributed throughout the year with an average annual precipitation of 1,090 mm (36 inches). The coolest month is June and the warmest is January. The prevailing winds are the Zonda, a northerly hot wind that blows in summer and the Pampero, a cold southerly wind that blows in winter. Average temperature ranges in Montevideo are from 6 to 14 degrees Celsius (43 to 57 degrees Fahrenheit) in July to 17 to 28 degrees Celsius (63 to 82 degrees Fahrenheit) in January.



This is like mine , except the hinge has been moved to the other side of the window frame. Popping the window out in the front and not the rear. The latch is in the same spot. The rear pop-outs are also the same hinges, and they are all original to the bus.

[scvw]

I hope you don't mind Bubba. I took this at the CTS show.

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[bubba]

[52panelvan]

Im sure you are right Bubba, i know pictures always make stuff look smoother and stuff but it looks though they have done a very neat job getting that hinge off (i would have guessed the frame would have to suffer). Is the rear hinge a vw looking one and what is the welding on it like, neat/spot welded or obviously swapped?

Im just curious as there seems to be a fair few of these cropping up in pics and stuff recently be great to find an original one (may be there is and i just missed it).

Incidently for what its worth i personally think the reason they go the crap other way round on a normal pre 52 is cos every bugger in the universe smoked in the 50's. It was a global national sport back then . Vw i dont think put an ash tray in till the deluxe came along so i recon thats why the useless vent windows came about. Smoke extraction and butt ditching without it coming back in, cos it works perfectly on both counts. I dont think they were designed as vents but extractors.

Cheers
Mark (ex smoker:-)

[ratlookvw]

looks like a redneck bird trap to me!
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[ambu55]

[52panelvan]

Yeh im sort of saying that too ambu55 - that the "normal" way and they dont do sod all BUT If you blow cigarette smoke at them (as most of the worlds poplulation did in the 50's) it seems to extract it mostly out of the window very efficiently, if you want to stay cool then there is no point in opening them as they do bugger all at all.
Bubba's way provide alot of air for hot climates but i bet its a bit of a face full especially with the catch having one setting but if its very hot, humid who would mind.

Not to labour a point -one other reason i think the vent wings are the "normal" way on early vans and a by product of them removing smoke and cig buts so well is they help provide a negative air pressure in a panel van cab and may well help with dragging air forward from the piss poor heating system for windscreen clearing. Granted I may well be thinking about it too much now .

I think that customer feedback and vw realising they could have both extraction or cooling by going for a centrally swivelling window so you could spin it round made it change. Its just a better idea, like alot of the changes you find on barndoors where if nothing else its just a better way of doing it.

Anyway thats only my thoughts on it, given the huge holes in my 51 the lack of air from the windows is the very least of my problems

Cheers

mark

[scvw]

Here are a couple pics of Bubbas pop out latches that someone mentioned. Again I hope you don't mind Bubba.

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WTB - Sigla popout glass like in my ad.
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[Ed Economy]

Yo Bubba,
You said your rear pop out latches are the same as your vent latches. I knew that the vent latches fit 50 -52. I once owned a 52 panel with no windows so this was new to me. I was sitting in a 52 kombi this week in Hawaii and it had the same vent latches as yours but the pop out latches were the early short fat latches very different than regular bus pop out latches, Later 52? I should have taken a picture. I just went thru some 1951 Barndoor literature and it shows the latches like yours Pop outs and vents are the same latch. so the question is, So what are these vent latches or pop out latches, which one is more rare

[Scotty]

I think the rear pop out latches changed to this sort:

Some time early in 51
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[bubba]

[Lowdown Dirty Rat]

bubba what makes you think yours are not from factory?
It may not be hot in Uruguay, but then why would a local do it?
These pictures are of a bus somewhere in europe (maybe someone can tell where). But i would guess it wasnt a particularly hot place either.

[bubba]

[Lowdown Dirty Rat]

look another!
to many 50's to be just a coincidence?

Here is a speculative theory for you:
How about not long into the production of the type 2 vw realized the vents were useless (unless you smoke ) and decided to flip them. But after receiving complaints that drivers were having their heads blown off or eating large amounts of animal life (at 40mph ) they quickly flipped them back and started on a 2 year program for an improved design

Of course the complaints might have equally have been that smokers had no where to put there butts or there cigarettes burnt out to quick.

[Anchovy]

From the 1950 sales brochure. Notice that this is a Typ 29 with the vertical vents.

[bubba]

[bubba]

[Anchovy]

[mightymouse]