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NorCalWeekender Samba Member
Joined: April 13, 2000 Posts: 6531 Location: East Bay, CA
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Posted: Thu Jan 01, 2004 11:50 am Post subject: Door Clip Alternative |
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So yesterday my dad and I made new front door panels for my camper. The only drawback was that the wood was resistant to curving to the shape of the door. The original door clips just wouldn't hold it in...driving me nuts! I went over to Orchard Supply today and bought some (rather large) phillips head screws that work rather well. I believe they're something like 16X7/8"...really wide. I think it'll still take some time to convince the wood it wants to curve, but at least the panel's secure now.
Pics'll be up on my website before the evening's out.
-Taylor _________________ 9th Owner of a 1971 Tintop Westy
"Eventually, we sold to a guy for $500 who towed it away to live in it in his parents' driveway. We didn't think it would ever avoid the junk heap on that day." -The 3rd Owner, 1995 |
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Skim Rants Master
Joined: April 15, 2001 Posts: 17082 Location: GFK 31 Year Vet
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Posted: Thu Jan 01, 2004 1:50 pm Post subject: |
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if the panel is thick enough, you can counter sink the hole and put a screw in it. Then upholster over the screws you wont see them and the clip should have no problem staying in place. _________________ GFK
Samba since before the towers collapsed. Still here.
1953 Kabriolet
1954 Sunroof
1959 Lowlight Ghia vert
1960 Lt Grey Double Cab SMZ LEGIT
1963 Deluxe Turkis Walk Thru 15 Window OG Paint |
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NorCalWeekender Samba Member
Joined: April 13, 2000 Posts: 6531 Location: East Bay, CA
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Posted: Thu Jan 01, 2004 2:09 pm Post subject: |
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I'm using wood door panels now (it's a camper), so I don't mind there being screws. They're a little large, but I'll just call it the industrial look.
-Taylor _________________ 9th Owner of a 1971 Tintop Westy
"Eventually, we sold to a guy for $500 who towed it away to live in it in his parents' driveway. We didn't think it would ever avoid the junk heap on that day." -The 3rd Owner, 1995 |
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NorCalNick Ain't yo baby daddy
Joined: December 07, 2002 Posts: 1582 Location: San Jose, Ca.
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Posted: Thu Jan 01, 2004 2:17 pm Post subject: |
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thats what i have in my single, wood with screws holding it on. i used finishing screws. the screw has a oval head and it sinks perfectly with the matching washer. _________________ When I'm done punching the clock, I start punching the clown. |
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Hella Bro Samba Member
Joined: February 28, 2002 Posts: 1143
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Posted: Thu Jan 01, 2004 4:05 pm Post subject: |
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Taylor I was thinking off putting wood on my doors as well. In the area that needs to bend I thought I would take some of the thickness out the backside of the panel with an electric sander to allow some flex. |
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iubhounds Samba Member
Joined: July 22, 2003 Posts: 339 Location: Southern Indiana
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Posted: Thu Jan 01, 2004 8:01 pm Post subject: |
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I found that "door skins", wood, worked very well as not only panels but also the headliner in a 67 bus I had in the 80's. _________________ 1960 VW Single Cab |
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tantau Samba Member
Joined: August 17, 2003 Posts: 52 Location: honolulu, hawaii
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Posted: Mon Jan 05, 2004 5:55 pm Post subject: |
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I just installed some 1/8 oak veneer ply on my front doors and cabin... after tracing the shape on the new wood and cutting them out.. I set my circular saw blade about a 1/3 of the thickness of the wood.. then made relief cuts (backside of course) vertically on the panels (1/4-1/2 apart x 10-15 times) where the forward bend is.. being careful not to take the cuts to the edge of the wood.. i also used #6 x 3/4 ss screws and ss recessed washers to attach/dress up the panels... hope that helps... door skins would work great too... I thought about that after the fact..lol O'well the 1/8 should last quite a while...hehe
_________________ "He who controls the spice, controls the universe" |
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NorCalWeekender Samba Member
Joined: April 13, 2000 Posts: 6531 Location: East Bay, CA
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Posted: Tue Jan 06, 2004 6:20 am Post subject: |
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Sweet door panels, Tantau! I hadn't thought about relief cuts...I just slapped my door panels on and leaned against them as I screwed in the tough bits. <chuckles> They're on just fine now and I'm sure they'll take the shape okay with time.
-Taylor _________________ 9th Owner of a 1971 Tintop Westy
"Eventually, we sold to a guy for $500 who towed it away to live in it in his parents' driveway. We didn't think it would ever avoid the junk heap on that day." -The 3rd Owner, 1995 |
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Saggs Samba Member
Joined: December 23, 2003 Posts: 662 Location: Lincolnton, NC
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Posted: Tue Jan 06, 2004 7:09 am Post subject: |
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awesome looking door panels Tantau! Can that 1/8" oak venneer be purchased at most lumber stores? I need to redo the panels on my 67 westy and had trouble finding anything thinner than 1/4". I'm motivated after seeing these!!! |
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tantau Samba Member
Joined: August 17, 2003 Posts: 52 Location: honolulu, hawaii
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Posted: Tue Jan 06, 2004 8:01 am Post subject: |
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Thanks for the props... I'd think most stores carry the 1/8 veneer plywood... I got mine from Home Depot... I know there are some specialty wood shops in most towns as well..but I'd check 84, Lowes, or Home Depot; yours will probably be less $ than what I have to pay..hehe ($35 per sh). By the way, it took 2.5 sheets to replace all the interior side panels... these were stained first (natural oak).. then used a satin polyurethane, light sand then apply second coat... I've got no headliner as well...so I think those doorskins (found at HDepot as well) will bend without relief cuts...
Aloha
Ps. Anyone ever heard of someone that sells interior template panels? My firend said JC Whitney used to sell the paper version.. then it was just trace and cut.. (kick panels, etc..) _________________ "He who controls the spice, controls the universe" |
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NorCalWeekender Samba Member
Joined: April 13, 2000 Posts: 6531 Location: East Bay, CA
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Posted: Tue Jan 06, 2004 8:46 am Post subject: |
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I haven't heard of templates short of old original panels. I know Clara Williams of Washington is selling newly-cut masonite panels in the classifieds, but why get those just to make a template?
I too need to redo some of my interior panels...not the roof, thankfully. But I would definitely go back to the place I got my wood (Minton's in Cupertino, CA) to get more.
-Taylor _________________ 9th Owner of a 1971 Tintop Westy
"Eventually, we sold to a guy for $500 who towed it away to live in it in his parents' driveway. We didn't think it would ever avoid the junk heap on that day." -The 3rd Owner, 1995 |
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Stanw3 Samba Member
Joined: September 26, 2003 Posts: 1077 Location: Albuquerque, NM
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Posted: Tue Jan 06, 2004 8:54 am Post subject: |
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what about the skate ramp trick for curving plywood - get it wet on the back side - let it set for a bit - then screw it on while it's a bit plyable. If you don't saok it - it shouldn't warp the wood. ???????? |
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tantau Samba Member
Joined: August 17, 2003 Posts: 52 Location: honolulu, hawaii
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Posted: Wed Jan 07, 2004 8:40 pm Post subject: |
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Yea.. soaking would work too... and being since I build wooden skate ramps and wooden bowls... that's where the experience came into play..hehe If not able to relief cut... the light-med soaking of plyboard would work... I'd only wet the inside portion though... maybe even put on two saw horses and add some wieght in the critical area you want to bend.. That's definitely an alternative....
Aloha
Ps. yes I've checked into the maso panels from sunshine... might end up that route.. thx _________________ "He who controls the spice, controls the universe" |
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NorCalWeekender Samba Member
Joined: April 13, 2000 Posts: 6531 Location: East Bay, CA
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Posted: Thu Jan 08, 2004 6:28 am Post subject: |
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Hmmm! I'll definitely keep this in mind when I go to restore the rest of my interior some day. There are some areas in the bus where the wood curves more severely than on the front doors!
-Taylor _________________ 9th Owner of a 1971 Tintop Westy
"Eventually, we sold to a guy for $500 who towed it away to live in it in his parents' driveway. We didn't think it would ever avoid the junk heap on that day." -The 3rd Owner, 1995 |
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Major Woody Samba Enigma
Joined: December 04, 2002 Posts: 9010 Location: Portland, OR
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Posted: Thu Jan 08, 2004 4:34 pm Post subject: |
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I want to do all the panels on my 67 with the original chrome clips instead of screws. What about a small spot of polyurethane Gorilla glue on the back of the panel next to the clip, clamped overnight? The glue would hold the wood long enough for it to get used to being in the curved position. Access to the inside of the door might be difficult later, so you would definitely want to be sure that you were done with door repairs and adjustments before doing this. Anyway that's my plan. |
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NorCalWeekender Samba Member
Joined: April 13, 2000 Posts: 6531 Location: East Bay, CA
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Posted: Thu Jan 08, 2004 6:29 pm Post subject: |
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Hmmm, I wonder if that would work any better or worse than some of the super dried out snotty stuff that's in this set of mirrors I just bought from a guy in Oregon. Kidding. I'd be little inclined to use that stuff just because I know I'd have to get back into the door mechanism someday.
-Taylor _________________ 9th Owner of a 1971 Tintop Westy
"Eventually, we sold to a guy for $500 who towed it away to live in it in his parents' driveway. We didn't think it would ever avoid the junk heap on that day." -The 3rd Owner, 1995 |
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Major Woody Samba Enigma
Joined: December 04, 2002 Posts: 9010 Location: Portland, OR
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Posted: Fri Jan 09, 2004 10:15 am Post subject: |
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Taylor did you get those bad boys apart yet? What holds the glass in? |
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NorCalWeekender Samba Member
Joined: April 13, 2000 Posts: 6531 Location: East Bay, CA
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Posted: Fri Jan 09, 2004 11:07 am Post subject: |
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Only just got them home to my place last night. Haven't had a chance to tear them down yet. I'm thinking right now just the gunk holds the glass in. But I'll let you know what I find.
-Taylor _________________ 9th Owner of a 1971 Tintop Westy
"Eventually, we sold to a guy for $500 who towed it away to live in it in his parents' driveway. We didn't think it would ever avoid the junk heap on that day." -The 3rd Owner, 1995 |
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Scandell Samba Member
Joined: April 02, 2007 Posts: 251 Location: Redondo Beach, CA
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Posted: Sun Sep 23, 2007 9:15 pm Post subject: |
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I bought some SEWFINE door panels...and some WW clips. I came get some of them to stay in. Do i need to POUND them in aggressively? Is there a trick I am missing? _________________ "Come on over...and we can work on it together." |
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Clara Samba Member
Joined: June 14, 2003 Posts: 12401
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Posted: Mon Sep 24, 2007 9:02 am Post subject: |
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What is the thickness of the sewfine panels?
The og panels were 2mm thick. That is slightly thinner than 1/8", and it makes a difference.
Some sanding the panels thinner may be in order. _________________ The Obsolete Air-Cooled Documentation Project http://oacdp.org/ |
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