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PostPosted: Sun May 19, 2019 11:57 am    Post subject: Re: Ghia coming home Reply with quote

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KGCoupe wrote:
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I suppose if the seat tracks will allow the seat to travel far enough forward, then the seat back would not really need to fold.

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Right on target! I have new seat tracks from the second row seats of a mini van. They have plenty of travel built-in for access to the third row - well, or second in my Ghia Very Happy

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Quick Update

Modern seat tracks work nicely, but they make things a little tricky:
- Seats are partly below the top surface of the new tracks
- Release mechanism needs to be actuated synchon on both tracks
- They are somewhat sensible to an absolute flat monting surface (and I am sure the conditions will be different with and without pan mounted to body Rolling Eyes

I decided to do the planning on CAD, otherwise to much trail and error Laughing First Draft below:
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PostPosted: Sun May 19, 2019 12:08 pm    Post subject: Re: Ghia coming home Reply with quote

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I decided to do the planning on CAD, otherwise to much trail and error Laughing

Pssshhh Rolling Eyes You can’t get it done drawing it out on the computer. Very Happy

Lop the original tracks off (since they’re not for a Ghia anyway), bolt some steel to the bottom of the seat, toss it in the car, make some pieces to fill the void, & stitch it all together.
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PostPosted: Sun May 19, 2019 12:30 pm    Post subject: Re: Ghia coming home Reply with quote

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I decided to do the planning on CAD, otherwise to much trail and error Laughing

Pssshhh Rolling Eyes You can’t get it done drawing it out on the computer. Very Happy



We'll see Wink
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PostPosted: Sun May 19, 2019 8:43 pm    Post subject: Re: Ghia coming home Reply with quote

There’s a free cad out there somewhere?
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PostPosted: Mon May 20, 2019 1:55 am    Post subject: Re: Ghia coming home Reply with quote

Yup! works well for me Very Happy
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 04, 2019 9:14 am    Post subject: Re: Ghia coming home Reply with quote

LEGO for big boy's Laughing Laughing Laughing
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The mechanism for the release took most of the design time. Now everything looks like it is meant to be - looks so simple - now that it is done Rolling Eyes
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Got sidetracked waiting on the laserman Cool Once the manifolds are matchported I will get to the seats again.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 04, 2019 9:58 am    Post subject: Re: Ghia coming home Reply with quote

If you sell a few sets of your new-and-improved custom seat tracks, you could possibly cover the costs of buying your own seats.

Perhaps you could try selling them to the distributor that you bought your seats from as there must be others using the same seat that also have a need for extended seat travel.

Heck, for that matter I'd be willing to bet there is a market for just about any one of the carefully thought out and extremely well crafted custom touches that you've created for your vintage VWs.

Just a thought.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 05, 2019 1:06 am    Post subject: Re: Ghia coming home Reply with quote

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If you sell a few sets of your new-and-improved custom seat tracks, you could possibly cover the costs of buying your own seats.

Perhaps you could try selling them to the distributor that you bought your seats from as there must be others using the same seat that also have a need for extended seat travel.

Heck, for that matter I'd be willing to bet there is a market for just about any one of the carefully thought out and extremely well crafted custom touches that you've created for your vintage VWs.

Just a thought.


Let's see if it works out first Laughing Laughing Laughing

Either way this solution will never be plug and play. As mentioned before, modern seat tracks are sensitive to variation and our seat pans are far from meeting those reqirements Shocked I will weld everything together on a flat welding table. A cross bar and one seat pod will be fixed to the pan. The forth seat pod will be machined to fit after body install to avoid any twist Twisted Evil

In addition the solution is really taylored to my specific seats and everyone loves different ones.

Thanks for the flowers anyhow Embarassed
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 05, 2019 4:28 am    Post subject: Re: Ghia coming home Reply with quote

Well thought solution, extremely cool!
Keep us updated!

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 05, 2019 10:37 pm    Post subject: Re: Ghia coming home Reply with quote

halbug wrote:
LEGO for big boy's Laughing Laughing Laughing
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Seriously?! My jaw keeps hurting from hitting the floor seeing things like this on the Samba! Yes I guess this is LEGOS for big boys if little boys had to design and build their own LEGO pieces.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 11, 2019 9:04 am    Post subject: Re: Ghia coming home Reply with quote

Thank you guys!

Some updates:

Bought myself some special long shank grinding discs
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... and got the dirty work done and finished Cool
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Back to seats

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 17, 2019 3:15 pm    Post subject: Re: Ghia coming home Reply with quote

Some pictures

Welding jig and prepping parts
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Details
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Straight forward welding of the seat support. The release mechanism is next. I hope this will go as smooth Cool
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 18, 2019 10:32 pm    Post subject: Re: Ghia coming home Reply with quote

As usual, clean, well thought and a great result.. thanks for sharing!! Cool

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 30, 2019 12:26 pm    Post subject: Re: Ghia coming home Reply with quote

No progress on the Ghia Confused

To continue I had to get my little lathe running. I had bought it some time back but never got it running. I cleaned everything, adjusted and oiled... Finally I am making ships in my own basement Cool

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 30, 2019 12:33 pm    Post subject: Re: Ghia coming home Reply with quote

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To continue I had to get my little lathe running. I had bought it some time back but never got it running. I cleaned everything, adjusted and oiled... Finally I am making ships in my own basement Cool


I hope you don't build them so large that you can't get them back out. Shocked
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 30, 2019 1:36 pm    Post subject: Re: Ghia coming home Reply with quote

I'll put them in a bottle first Cool
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 01, 2019 11:08 pm    Post subject: Re: Ghia coming home Reply with quote

He probably meant chips...
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 21, 2019 10:54 am    Post subject: Re: Ghia coming home Reply with quote

One seat console is done Very Happy

All works as hoped. Return spring pulls lever with the rubber against adjustable stop to help avoid rattle. As do wave washers, so I don't have end-play in the shaft. All clears the seat. I'm happy with how it turned out. Here some pics.


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Side covers are on the to-do-list.

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PostPosted: Sun Nov 10, 2019 12:10 pm    Post subject: Re: Ghia coming home Reply with quote

I got the console and mechanism for the passenger side welded a couple weeks ago. The levers for the seat adjust needed hard brazing. I have been pushing this out, as I haven't done brazing for decades and wasn't sure how it would turn out... Embarassed

Either way - I did them today and the result is decent. I am not sure if I shall grind the excessive brass away or if it even looks better to leave them as is??? The chrome plater will polish them anyway before dipping...

This concludes the seat consoles Cool I will have to grind and weld a couple things on the Thing pan next, including the bracketry to mount the seat tracks to the pan.

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PostPosted: Sun Nov 10, 2019 7:44 pm    Post subject: Re: Ghia coming home Reply with quote

Wow, nice work on the tracks. Shocked
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