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MarkWard
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 Posted: Fri Jun 13, 2014 9:17 am Post subject: VW T3 Diesel RV widebody made by Tischer |
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Hello, this came up for sale in the classifieds and happens to be here in Florida.
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/classifieds/detail.php?id=1642079
I have no affiliation with the seller but did email him to ask if he could link me to more information about the carriage. The email back was sort of not too helpful. When I google search it, the links seem to point back to his add. Can someone provide me with more information on this coach builder?
My wife thinks it is ugly. It appears to have a fiberglass shell and may be less prone to wood rot vs the gipsy with a wood frame and an aluminum skin. It might be worth a day trip, but I'd like to know more about the construction etc. Could be a good candidate for a TDI and a syncro drive train. I haven't started any cutting yet on my next project. Thank you. mark
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Sir Sam
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My two cents? I don't think that it would be useful as a syncro. Anything I want a syncro for I don't want that body for.
Ya added traction is great, but when I want syncro bits I wouldn't take that chassis there.
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shadetreetim
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I like it. I would vote TDI and no Syncro. Very cool ride.
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MarkWard
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Ok, I'd still like some information on the coach build. thank you
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pedrokrusher
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paulexports
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| I have no affiliation with the seller but did email him to ask if he could link me to more information about the carriage. The email back was sort of not too helpful. |
Im the seller,hmmmm,im pretty sure I replied and said that except for the year,motor,tranny I didn't know anything about it.And that only 75 where build and that I would provide more info once its here.Its in Jacksonville now,at customs and im on vacation myself,hopefully ill know more by the end of the month when im home again and have more photos.By that time the van will go on Ebay also,thank you.
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pedrokrusher
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| Im the seller,hmmmm,im pretty sure I replied and said that except for the year,motor,tranny I didn't know anything about it.And that only 75 where build and that I would provide more info once its here.Its in Jacksonville now,at customs and im on vacation myself,hopefully ill know more by the end of the month when im home again and have more photos.By that time the van will go on Ebay also,thank you. |
Hi Paul, thanks for your response. Have a good vacation and we will wait for your input when you'll get back... (Photos! Photos! Photos!)
Here is what I found so far on the web. Unfortunatelly the pictures were removed or deleted... Bummer... But at least you can read about the restoration. On this page (page 2) it says the wood structure was removed/replaced. So that means it is built like a vw vanagon karmann gipsy, a wood frame...
http://www.karmann-coachbuilts.com/restorations/picnic02.htm
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http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=598791&highlight=
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=493964&highlight=speed+aap+trans
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=496589&highlight=carrier+bars
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MarkWard
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Ok, that information is helpful. Wood frame, no thank you. I have a lot of talents, wood working is not one of them. I was hoping since it appeared to be fiberglass, that the support structure was also done in glass. If it is a wood frame fiberglassed into shell, that is how many fiberglass boats are made. Moisture gets trapped under the glass and rots the wood stringers. The rot is mostly invisible until you try to mount something. Fixing it is even worse.
To Paul the seller, yes you did reply, but admitted you did not know anything about it. I replied back that I would post on the Samba to find out more. I expect this thread probably drove a few more people to your van for sale and provided information you were not able to supply as the seller at this time. You are welcome. I am sure it will sell.
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My two cents? I don't think that it would be useful as a syncro. Anything I want a syncro for I don't want that body for.
Ya added traction is great, but when I want syncro bits I wouldn't take that chassis there. |
I can think of all sorts of places where 4wd + camper make a ton of sense!
A sandy beach or muddy 2 track road are easy examples. Many of the camp sites in Moab require a drive down a sandy road where 2wd nd a heavy rig would be at risk. |
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MarkWard
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So, did you buy it? I see you have your TDI syncro for sale. Because of the wood frame, I quickly lost interest in this camper. It is neat though.
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| So, did you buy it? I see you have your TDI syncro for sale. Because of the wood frame, I quickly lost interest in this camper. It is neat though. |
Buy it?
No, i just bought a karmann gipsy!
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=598791&highlight=
For sure I would take a good look at this Tischer XL65 if I did not buy the gipsy.
The wood frame is not a big deal. Well, its not a big deal anymore for me. After lurking over the karmann gipsy forum,
http://www.karmann-coachbuilts.com
And seeing so many gipsys being restored easily. You literally peel off the outer aluminum sheet metal, replace the rotten wood, or even remake a new wood frame. Then reinstall the aluminum sheets, et voilà! With simple tools, and no need of incredible experience, anybody can tackle that task. And cheap at that! Compared to painting a westy body...
Now, Its a totally different game repainting a westy... Metal welding, prep, prep, prep, sanding, a couple layers of primer, a couple of layers of paint, clear... And you need specialised equipement and a paint boot...
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1989 vanagon Karmann Gipsy #652, TDI AFN
1991 vanagon westfalia conversion TDI ALH Silverfox
ex-1989 vanagon syncro passenger Syncrofox (Sold)
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=598791&highlight=
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=493964&highlight=speed+aap+trans
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=496589&highlight=carrier+bars
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Now it's up on Fleabay
they musta found out how dang'd slow it is on the cross florida interstates..
imagine if they had Mtns or even hills down there.. Floridians get giddy just crossing a tall bridge.. 
interesting the text body says they have a LT DOKA on the lot too. I'd like to see pics on that.
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Zeitgeist 13
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How that thing moves at all is beyond me. I love diesels, but a 1.6 NA is a cruel joke in that rig. A prime candidate for a TDI swap if there ever was one
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tall bridge...where? |
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they cruise a few hundred over the Sunshine skyway bridge in St Pete
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MarkWard
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Now it's up on Fleabay
they musta found out how dang'd slow it is on the cross florida interstates..
imagine if they had Mtns or even hills down there.. Floridians get giddy just crossing a tall bridge..
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This is it's second go around on Fleebay. It did not meet the reserve last time. It is certainly unique. They just need to find the right person/family. I'd like to see how they stretched the unibody to move the rear axle back. Still though, it is certainly cool looking. Just not for us.
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| Posted: Sat Dec 03, 2016 5:45 pm Post subject: Re: VW T3 Diesel RV widebody made by Tischer |
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It looks like it's in SF now. There was a deleted ad for this in Bakersfield a month ago.
http://sfbay.craigslist.org/sfc/rvs/5890241823.html
I will be on vacation from dec 18th till January 20th,RV can still be seen,i just wont
be there to personally meet you,but my friend Peter will,merry Christmas.
nice and rare vw tischer diesel rv,technically almost perfect and low 75000 miles,
needs minor lower body work and work on appliances to make it perfect,4 speed manual,
1.6 diesel.No ac,no computers,only 85 made,only 10 in XL,this is the XL,which is
1.5ftlonger.Clean fla title. 25mpg or better.This is the camper for the vw purist that wants
something special and just a little more room.I gladly email more photos.Can be seen in
wildomar,ca,More and better pics avaible by email
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| Posted: Sat Dec 03, 2016 5:58 pm Post subject: Re: VW T3 Diesel RV widebody made by Tischer |
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if you read the ad,its in Wildomar,Ca..I used it this year (2016) for trips on the west coast.Its parked at a friends place.Can be seen and inspected there. Im bringing it back home to florida in march.I have it advertised in 4 mayor cities in Ca,just to spread the word.
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