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Ccrider5150
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 Posted: Sun Jun 15, 2014 9:38 am Post subject: 1979 bay window steering box seals |
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looking for the output shaft seal size. I've seen seal sizes for earl 70's buses, but mine is a 79 bay. also......where is the steering box filler plug? pics would help.
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GeorgeO.
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| Posted: Sun Jun 15, 2014 9:57 am Post subject: |
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Try this pic. German Supply has the input and output shaft seals. Good luck
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Ccrider5150
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| Posted: Sun Jun 15, 2014 9:59 am Post subject: |
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| trying to source a seal locally (cheaper). was looking for the seal size like 22x32x7...something i can take down to the local bearing store. |
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Danwvw
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Tcash
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old DKP driver
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| Posted: Sun Jun 15, 2014 10:47 am Post subject: steering box seals |
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The generic part numbers that your local supply house will have listed are
22 x 32 x 7 is 8510 upper seal
28 x 36 x 7 is 10924 lower seal
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SGKent 
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| Posted: Sun Jun 15, 2014 10:55 am Post subject: |
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The seals are shown in Kaman Bearings catalog.
The upper is 22x32x7
The lower is 28x38x7. The last ones I bought came as Timken sku number 0 53893 503813
The ball bearings in this one at the top and bottom of the input shaft are like those on an old bicycle crank - mounted in a plastic cage and are 5/16 (.3125) inch. I don't know if the ZF will be the same or not (they were). I checked the ball bearings with a micrometer and they show some signs of elongation so we will put new ones in and see how much play is there. There is a shim but it could be sanded on glass to make it thinner if needed. The races are in excellent condition and there is no play at the upper or lower bushings. The grittiness is just age and dust that has gotten in over the years - hardened grease etc. ...
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If one follows the procedure in the book and sets the thru center torque properly, and if the worm gear is not badly worn, it can be made to work like new. You might try your local bearing supply. National and Timiken make them. Make sure they are dual lip, and that the shaft is polished before installing a new seal or it will leak. |
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Ccrider5150
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| Posted: Sun Jun 15, 2014 10:57 am Post subject: |
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| When you say upper and lower seal....what does that refer to? I only see on seal at the out put shaft in the pic I posted. I did see that thread for 71 bust seal, but I was wondering if a 1971 and a 79 steering bowls output shaft seals are the same. And I might add that iam a newbie vw owner....so iam learning as I go. |
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SGKent
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| Posted: Sun Jun 15, 2014 11:06 am Post subject: |
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upper = input shaft
lower= output shaft
1968/72 and 1973/79 boxes are not identical. They use different parts. I listed the seals for late boxes 73/79. This includes the early 1973 Gemmer boxes made in France and the late 1973 -79 made by ZF under license by Gemmer to ZF in Germany. I have a NOS late bay ZF box Bob Hood found in Lemforder surplus stock that was made in 1982. While I am very happy with it, my 1977 box that I rebuilt worked just as well as it does. Only caveat is when one starts working on steering and brakes, they could be playing with their lives if they mess up so if someone is not a skilled mechanic they might want to reflect on their abilities, and patience to detail before they start. |
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Ccrider5150
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| Posted: Sun Jun 15, 2014 11:17 am Post subject: |
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| Thanks sgkent....I will goto the bearing shop tomorrow with the lower seal dimensions and grab that seal to solve my leaky steering box. Very helpfull to a newbie like me. |
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Tcash
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| Posted: Sun Jun 15, 2014 6:08 pm Post subject: |
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| Put a wrap of box tape on the shaft, grease it and slide the seal over that. That way you will not nick the seal putting it on. |
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