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Abscate Samba Member
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Posted: Mon May 01, 2017 5:53 pm Post subject: Re: The journey of a new 1970 Westfalia owner. The fixes begin. |
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I'm sure you are going to,align the Phillips screws on the throttle positioner before driving....... _________________ .ssS! |
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wcfvw69 Samba Purist
Joined: June 10, 2004 Posts: 13389 Location: Arizona
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Posted: Mon May 01, 2017 6:56 pm Post subject: Re: The journey of a new 1970 Westfalia owner. The fixes begin. |
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Abscate wrote: |
I'm sure you are going to,align the Phillips screws on the throttle positioner before driving....... |
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notchboy Samba Member
Joined: April 27, 2002 Posts: 22460 Location: Escondido CA
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Posted: Mon May 01, 2017 8:21 pm Post subject: Re: The journey of a new 1970 Westfalia owner. The fixes begin. |
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Bill that looks sweet. One of the must learns on my list for like the last 10 years
So little time, so many projects. _________________
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Jason "notchboy" Weigel
1964 1500 S
1964 T34 S Convertible
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wcfvw69 Samba Purist
Joined: June 10, 2004 Posts: 13389 Location: Arizona
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Posted: Mon May 01, 2017 9:07 pm Post subject: Re: The journey of a new 1970 Westfalia owner. The fixes begin. |
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notchboy wrote: |
Bill that looks sweet. One of the must learns on my list for like the last 10 years
So little time, so many projects. |
Thanks Jason,
It's been on my list for years to learn as well. Again, I still have a long way to go as well. Watching your threads, projects and your love of the attention to detail, you'd love this plating process too.
I have my plating set up on a bench, ready to use in minutes. The other day I was reinstalling a bubblehead license plate frame on my 67 bug. The original license plate bolts looked terrible w/dark brown surface rust on them. I said screw it and took 20 minutes (while doing other things as well) to strip and replate them. They looked new when I reinstalled them.
The license plate bolts example is exactly why I wanted to learn and have the set up available. As we are working on our VW's and come across items needing to be replated, we can turn on the plating area and dial it in. _________________ Contact me at [email protected]
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riverside66 Samba Member
Joined: June 04, 2008 Posts: 218 Location: Sparta, NC
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Posted: Tue May 02, 2017 6:02 am Post subject: Re: The journey of a new 1970 Westfalia owner. The fixes begin. |
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wcfvw69 wrote: |
As such, I've started to replate various engine parts and nuts & bolts.
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That looks factory fresh! Yep, I'm going to have to have that done to mine _________________ 1977 Standard Beetle -Sold-
1979 Transporter - "Wheatbread" -Sold- |
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Clatter Samba Member
Joined: September 24, 2003 Posts: 7544 Location: Santa Cruz
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Posted: Sat May 06, 2017 8:43 am Post subject: Re: The journey of a new 1970 Westfalia owner. The fixes begin. |
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Spent the last few days reading this entire thread..
Love it!
You wouldn't be getting your paint products from Space Age in Mesa by any chance?
I got all of my stuff there back in, oh, 1995 or so..
They were great to work with, and really took the time to sort things out.
Those plated fasteners look great.
This has to really be killing Robbie right now,
No wonder he has gone silent..
This whole resto thing,
Even though it couldn't be further from my world, (yes I'm that PO hack)
Looks like a lot of fun.
I have been at this so long (and am so thick) that keeping things OG was never even on the radar.
That anyone would restore smog equipment...!
Back in the day, there was All German in Tempe.
They had rows and rows and rows of OG dry AZ busses.
Wonder if they are still there?
If so, there's bound to be piles of treasure hidden somewhere... _________________ Bus Motor Build
What’s That Noise?!? |
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wcfvw69 Samba Purist
Joined: June 10, 2004 Posts: 13389 Location: Arizona
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Posted: Sat May 06, 2017 1:40 pm Post subject: Re: The journey of a new 1970 Westfalia owner. The fixes begin. |
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Clatter wrote: |
Spent the last few days reading this entire thread..
Love it!
You wouldn't be getting your paint products from Space Age in Mesa by any chance?
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I do get my paint supplies from Space Age. Super nice folks there and the gal that owns the joint is really helpful and knowledgable.
I'm not aware of the VW salvage yard. It's probably long gone. There Jan's place out off broadway and I think he's the last VW salvage yard.
Glad you enjoyed the thread! _________________ Contact me at [email protected]
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**Restored German Bosch distributors for sale or I can restore yours**
**Restored German Pierburg fuel pumps for sale or I can restore yours**
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wcfvw69 Samba Purist
Joined: June 10, 2004 Posts: 13389 Location: Arizona
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Posted: Sat May 06, 2017 1:55 pm Post subject: Re: The journey of a new 1970 Westfalia owner. The fixes begin. |
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While I have the plating momentum going, I decided to continue to pick away at the oxidized zinc plated items on the buses engine that needed attention. I had quickly painted the clips and parts on the 71' oil bath when I put it back on the bus as they were rusting.
I yanked the oil bath off and removed all the steel parts. Painting them bit me in the butt as I had to wire wheel all the paint back off before stripping the rust and remaining zinc off in acid. It added lots of labor and time. I also removed the engine lid support and hardware to replate them as well.
Here's the before photos after removing them.
The parts get cleaned of all grease and oil and they are then dunked in a bucket of water and acid to remove the factory zinc and any remaining rust.
They come out of the acid and are neutralized with a mixture of water and baking soda. The raw steel parts are then quickly put into a ultrasonic cleaner with HOT water and a degreaser. When the parts are out of the water, they will flash rust right before your eyes. So, you have to move the stripped parts quickly from one tank to the other.
They are then wired up with copper wire and rinsed and put in the plating tank and then bright zinc plated.
Here's some before and after pics-
What's interesting to note is most of these parts had corrosion starting on them from where the factory zinc had oxidized off over 47 years. So, replating them not only made them look "purty" but it will also extend their life as well.
I have a couple more clamps and pieces in the engine compartment and then I'll be finished with the engine. _________________ Contact me at [email protected]
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**Restored German Bosch distributors for sale or I can restore yours**
**Restored German Pierburg fuel pumps for sale or I can restore yours**
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Abscate Samba Member
Joined: October 05, 2014 Posts: 22668 Location: NYC/Upstate/ROW
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Posted: Sat May 06, 2017 2:00 pm Post subject: Re: The journey of a new 1970 Westfalia owner. The fixes begin. |
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They look great Bill. That same vat of acid comes in useful for disposing of the bodies of people who walk up to your Bus and say "They didn't come from Germany Cad plated"
Hit em over the head with a 38A generator, then dissolve them in muriatic. Works like a charm _________________ .ssS! |
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wcfvw69 Samba Purist
Joined: June 10, 2004 Posts: 13389 Location: Arizona
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Posted: Sat May 06, 2017 2:24 pm Post subject: Re: The journey of a new 1970 Westfalia owner. The fixes begin. |
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Abscate wrote: |
They look great Bill. That same vat of acid comes in useful for disposing of the bodies of people |
Sounds like something this guy might do? _________________ Contact me at [email protected]
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**Restored German Bosch distributors for sale or I can restore yours**
**Restored German Pierburg fuel pumps for sale or I can restore yours**
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wcfvw69 Samba Purist
Joined: June 10, 2004 Posts: 13389 Location: Arizona
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Posted: Mon May 08, 2017 5:46 pm Post subject: Re: The journey of a new 1970 Westfalia owner. The fixes begin. |
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Alright, I'm calling this engine DONE. I finished stripping and replating the last of the original items that were originally zinc plated when it was new.
I've reinstalled all the original, restored and correct 1971 items to make it look as stock as a 1971' engine as I can make it. Feel free to nit pick it and identify anything wrong or missing. As a reminder, It's a 71' engine in a 70' bus so there is no brake booster line nor was there a charcoal canister fitted on this bus when new.
One side not is the way the clamps are orientated on the intake manifold boots. I had them on wrong in the past. After reviewing some factory literature, it confirmed this is the way they should be orientated.
Up next is the interior that needs to be fixed correctly. It will require the bus to be gutted inside and all the cabinets relaminated. I'll also repaint the interior the correct factory color. _________________ Contact me at [email protected]
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**Restored German Bosch distributors for sale or I can restore yours**
**Restored German Pierburg fuel pumps for sale or I can restore yours**
**Restored Porsche fuel pumps or I can restore yours**
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Fifty-Eight Rag Samba Member
Joined: September 07, 2011 Posts: 936 Location: St. Louis, MO
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richparker Samba Member
Joined: November 24, 2011 Posts: 6982 Location: Durango, CO
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Posted: Mon May 08, 2017 6:39 pm Post subject: Re: The journey of a new 1970 Westfalia owner. The fixes begin. |
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wcfvw69 wrote: |
It's a 71' engine in a 70' bus |
What's the 1971 Mcode for a full flowed 1776?
It does look nice! _________________ __________
’71 Westy build
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airschooled Air-Schooled
Joined: April 04, 2012 Posts: 12722 Location: on a bike ride somewhere
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Posted: Mon May 08, 2017 8:37 pm Post subject: Re: The journey of a new 1970 Westfalia owner. The fixes begin. |
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Are you sure the oil cap has the correct flutes?
And do you have the upper hose clamps on with the screw parts to the inside? I can't see, but most factory VWs had them that way so you don't take skin off your hand when pulling the plugs.
Oil cap on right-side up, RIGHT BILL?
Robbie _________________ Learn how your vintage VW works. And why it doesn't!
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Clatter Samba Member
Joined: September 24, 2003 Posts: 7544 Location: Santa Cruz
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Posted: Mon May 08, 2017 8:54 pm Post subject: Re: The journey of a new 1970 Westfalia owner. The fixes begin. |
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So, how is the correct 1970 motor build coming along? _________________ Bus Motor Build
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mcdonaldneal Samba Member
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wcfvw69 Samba Purist
Joined: June 10, 2004 Posts: 13389 Location: Arizona
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Posted: Tue May 09, 2017 7:51 am Post subject: Re: The journey of a new 1970 Westfalia owner. The fixes begin. |
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Fifty-Eight Rag wrote: |
Very nice Bill...
Love a tidy stocker. |
Thank you sir!
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wcfvw69 wrote: |
It's a 71' engine in a 70' bus |
What's the 1971 Mcode for a full flowed 1776?
I need to do my research on that Mcode! HA! Obviously my goal was to put it back to looking like it did when this engine was delivered new in 1971. The good news is with all the original, correct parts in place, it runs beautifully w/a bit more power and the added protection of the oil filter.
asiab3 wrote: |
Are you sure the oil cap has the correct flutes?
And do you have the upper hose clamps on with the screw parts to the inside? I can't see, but most factory VWs had them that way so you don't take skin off your hand when pulling the plugs.
Oil cap on right-side up, RIGHT BILL?
Robbie |
Clatter wrote: |
So, how is the correct 1970 motor build coming along? |
Funny! I recently drove a bone stock 1600 with a 30-3 carb and 205T distributor. It ran beautifully but the power difference between it and this dual port 1776 with the bigger German Solex 34-3 was very apparent. I'm sticking with this dual port 1776 engine.
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Bill, the zinc plating is sickeningly beautiful!
If (when!) my Ghia makes the transition from survivor to genuine restoration, I will not be able to resist that!
Your engine bay is stunning. I know it's not a mistake that the oil pressure switch is unplugged. Would it originally have had a foil timing sticker under the coil? I haven't been able to source a 0deg sticker for our '70 Ghia.
Surely yours is the gold standard for a '71?! |
Good eye Phil on the oil pressure sender wire. I noticed that too when I posted these pictures. I ran out there and double checked and it was plugged in.
If you see the VW decal on the drivers side fan shroud, it has the timing specs on it. I don't "think" there was a separate decal for the timing on this 71' but I could be wrong. Anyone know for sure? I'd also like to have a M157 rubber stamp made, dip it in flat white paint and stamp the shroud!
Phil, watching your bus thread and your love of the nitty gritty, fine detail work, you'd REALLY love the re plating process. While the learning curve to do it correctly sucks, once you figure it out, it's very satisfying to take an original VW steel part that the zinc has oxidized off of w/rust breaking through and then make it look shiny and new again.
I didn't really understand the whole zinc plated part and how it all worked until I started this plating process. Zinc is put on the part as a sacrificial protection. It's designed to oxidize over a period of time vs. the metal under it. As I mentioned, most of these parts I've stripped and replated had rust and corrosion in spots where the zinc had oxidized off. That corrosion leaves pits in the metal that show up after replating. In your part of the world with all the moisture and weather, I'd imagine it's even more amplified.
Thanks for the compliment Phil. _________________ Contact me at [email protected]
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**Restored German Bosch distributors for sale or I can restore yours**
**Restored German Pierburg fuel pumps for sale or I can restore yours**
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LazyLightning75 Samba Member
Joined: August 02, 2016 Posts: 115 Location: Carmichael, CA
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Posted: Wed May 10, 2017 6:40 pm Post subject: Re: The journey of a new 1970 Westfalia owner. The fixes begin. |
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I spent the last two evenings reading your thread and really enjoyed it. Many of the projects look familiar and you gave me a few new ideas to consider. Your engine and engine compartment are gorgeous.
Thanks for sharing your project...gives me inspiration to continue on with mine! _________________ 1975 Riviera 1.8L FI |
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busdaddy Samba Member
Joined: February 12, 2004 Posts: 51145 Location: Surrey B.C. Canada, but thinking of Ukraine
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Posted: Wed May 10, 2017 7:01 pm Post subject: Re: The journey of a new 1970 Westfalia owner. The fixes begin. |
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Looks fantastic Bill!
I've really gotta dig down deep in the very bottom of the barrel for anything to point out now, and that plating is slicker than whale shit on an ice floe
So...., reaching way down deep..., should that oil pressure sender have the circumcised tip on the plastic part below the terminal for a rubber boot to grip?, when exactly did they change from smooth?
There should also be a reuseable translucent white nylon tie wrap sort of band on the decel valve hoses between the manifold nipple and the controller on the decklid surround.
No project is ever really finished, besides it gets really boring when it is truly done for good. _________________ Rust NEVER sleeps and stock never goes out of style.
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notchboy Samba Member
Joined: April 27, 2002 Posts: 22460 Location: Escondido CA
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Posted: Wed May 10, 2017 7:40 pm Post subject: Re: The journey of a new 1970 Westfalia owner. The fixes begin. |
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wcfvw69 wrote: |
Abscate wrote: |
They look great Bill. That same vat of acid comes in useful for disposing of the bodies of people |
Sounds like something this guy might do? |
Better call Saul!
Those look great. Cant wait till the show nazi accuses you of chrome plating stuff that was not original chrome _________________
t3kg wrote: |
OK, this thread is over. You win. |
Jason "notchboy" Weigel
1964 1500 S
1964 T34 S Convertible
1977 Westfalia Camper pop-top |
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