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DONGKG The Araneta Boys
Joined: August 28, 2006 Posts: 5475 Location: Cainta, Rizal, Philippines, "A Certified Type 3 and Karmann Ghia Maniac"
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Joseph DR Samba Member
Joined: December 20, 2004 Posts: 180 Location: Texas
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Posted: Sat Oct 31, 2015 3:14 pm Post subject: |
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Great build, Dong! How did you weld the manifolds?
Can I use a MIG welder and wire or is it aluminum brazing or some such?
Also, where on the manifolds did you tap the Ampco oiler?
Thanks! _________________ 1964 Beetle |
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Joseph DR Samba Member
Joined: December 20, 2004 Posts: 180 Location: Texas
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Posted: Sat Oct 31, 2015 8:01 pm Post subject: |
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OK, I must have missed this one on my first search. But I found my answer to the "weld or braze on manifolds" question from Bub:
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=326666&highlight=welding+manifold
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Pretty simple to make a dual carb kit for almost any application. I did it with a 40hp on a dune buggy I built a couple years back, it used two 28/30PICT carbs.
You need the lower (head) flange from the 40hp, cut maybe a couple inches above the flange, some appropriate pipe (sectioning the VW intake works fine) and two manifold to carb flanges. The good thing is the 40hp manifolds are cheap/free most of the time, so all you need is a welder, some beer and a free saturday afternoon.
You mock it up on your longblock, spot weld and finish the manifolds. In my case I heated the manifolds and slightly 'bent' one to get correct offset. I made linkage hidden on the front of the shroud using steel rod I bought at the hardware store and random dual carb linkage pieces. If you've seen many of the old kits you can easily picture how to make it, and it seriously works fine, many times better than the old stuff.
Vintage is always cooler, but even with a decent wallet they can be hard to find. |
_________________ 1964 Beetle |
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DONGKG The Araneta Boys
Joined: August 28, 2006 Posts: 5475 Location: Cainta, Rizal, Philippines, "A Certified Type 3 and Karmann Ghia Maniac"
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Posted: Tue Jul 11, 2017 12:43 am Post subject: |
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Joseph DR wrote: |
Great build, Dong! How did you weld the manifolds?
Can I use a MIG welder and wire or is it aluminum brazing or some such?
Also, where on the manifolds did you tap the Ampco oiler?
Thanks! |
Sorry for the late reply! I just used an acetylene type welder. I worked perfectly! _________________ '67 KG Cabrio (Mickey) ;
'66 Type 3 (Sharky 2)
'72 Type 2 Homey
'67 Splitty Bus
'65 beetle;'69 Country Buggy; '44 Kubelwagen (replica) TOOB MEMBER #20 |
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Rome Samba Member
Joined: June 02, 2004 Posts: 9651 Location: Pearl River, NY
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Posted: Tue Jul 11, 2017 6:23 pm Post subject: Re: My 1965 1200cc vintage speed theme.. |
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DONG, how do you manage to reach the mixture and idle screws on the right carb? Aren't those partially blocked by the fan shroud, or do you have a special tool (i.e., right angle screwdriver) to reach them? Or is the manifold angled back slightly so that the carb is rearward of the fan shroud side?
Red painted engine case... sexy!
You mentioned the carbs are 30 PICTs, yet it looks like they have a manual choke? By comparison, US-spec 30 PICTs had electric chokes. |
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DONGKG The Araneta Boys
Joined: August 28, 2006 Posts: 5475 Location: Cainta, Rizal, Philippines, "A Certified Type 3 and Karmann Ghia Maniac"
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Posted: Thu Jul 13, 2017 10:17 pm Post subject: Re: My 1965 1200cc vintage speed theme.. |
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Rome wrote: |
DONG, how do you manage to reach the mixture and idle screws on the right carb? Aren't those partially blocked by the fan shroud, or do you have a special tool (i.e., right angle screwdriver) to reach them? Or is the manifold angled back slightly so that the carb is rearward of the fan shroud side?
Red painted engine case... sexy!
You mentioned the carbs are 30 PICTs, yet it looks like they have a manual choke? By comparison, US-spec 30 PICTs had electric chokes. |
Good day.
I have a screw driver that really fts in between the fan shroud and the carb. Though it's a tight stop to adjust the mixture screw, but with bucket full of patience, it can be accomplished. As far as I can remember, those are Brosol Solex 30 PICT carbs that have manual choke. Though I will have it checked later.
When I bought my '65, the engine was with red color. Scraping the paint may leave permanent marks on the case that is why I left it as is. But, given the chance, I'd like it in magnesium color.
Thanks,
DongKG _________________ '67 KG Cabrio (Mickey) ;
'66 Type 3 (Sharky 2)
'72 Type 2 Homey
'67 Splitty Bus
'65 beetle;'69 Country Buggy; '44 Kubelwagen (replica) TOOB MEMBER #20 |
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s.e.charles Samba Member
Joined: March 26, 2015 Posts: 239
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Posted: Sun Dec 20, 2020 8:56 am Post subject: Re: My 1965 1200cc vintage speed theme.. |
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because i simply don't know these things .... why an Ampco oiler and an oil filter ???
does the Ampco jar only act a an added reservoir?
and (feeling needy here) how is it plumbed?
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TinCanFab Samba Member
Joined: April 04, 2006 Posts: 2743 Location: Waterford, California
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Posted: Tue Dec 22, 2020 1:30 pm Post subject: Re: My 1965 1200cc vintage speed theme.. |
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s.e.charles wrote: |
because i simply don't know these things .... why an Ampco oiler and an oil filter ???
does the Ampco jar only act a an added reservoir?
and (feeling needy here) how is it plumbed?
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The Ampco is a "top end oiler", it is fed into the air intake/carb venturi. You fill it with Marvel Mystery oil and it lubricates by misting oil into the intake tract. The lid to the oiler has an adjustable metering device. The fitting that goes into the carb/intake has a specific size orifice.
The other can is an actual oil filter, for pressurized engine oil.
Both are accessories and don't have anything to do with each other. _________________ Check out my truck brought back from the dead... http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=420762&highlight=sprayed+blood
They're never really ever finished 58 rag build...
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=658092 |
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s.e.charles Samba Member
Joined: March 26, 2015 Posts: 239
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Posted: Tue Dec 22, 2020 1:36 pm Post subject: Re: My 1965 1200cc vintage speed theme.. |
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thank you; appreciate the clear & concise explanation. |
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