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tasb The Distributor Distributor
Joined: April 27, 2002 Posts: 6371 Location: Pentwater, Michigan
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Posted: Sat Jan 10, 2004 10:25 pm Post subject: Deck lid spring / Decklid mounting tab thread |
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Well I found one of those elusive springs that helps close the engine lid on early buses. As I look at the engine prop elbow area it looks like there are 4-5 places where a spring might go. Does anyone have a picture of the spring installed or is realy good at explainations? Your help will be greatly appreciated. Oh, I have already checed the archives section and did not come up with anything.
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Here is a summary of the information in this thread:
Spring:
Operation:
When you lift up the engine lid, the prop tab (see photo) slides up the side of the engine compartment wall along the tab on the body. Once it gets to the top of the body tab, the spring pulls it towards you (or you pull it if you don't have a spring) and the tab ends up sitting on top of the body tab (bottom photo)
Tab on decklid:
(Note different positions of welded-on bracket)
1955-1959 style (reproduction tab but same as stock):
1960-1963 style, still for use with prop rod:
1964-up style with spring decklid:
Original bolt with shank and wavy washer:
Additional 1955-59 photos
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From my Dec '55-built deluxe.
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Scotts 63 23 Samba Member
Joined: March 09, 2002 Posts: 1280 Location: Somewhere in my mind... The Real er Laguna Beach :)
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Posted: Sun Jan 11, 2004 8:06 am Post subject: |
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Hey [email protected],
I have a great photo of an installed spring on my bus that I will put in this thread when I find it. I'll be right back.
Scott |
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Scotts 63 23 Samba Member
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Posted: Sun Jan 11, 2004 8:13 am Post subject: |
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Here it is:
Hope that helps,
Scott |
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tasb The Distributor Distributor
Joined: April 27, 2002 Posts: 6371 Location: Pentwater, Michigan
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Posted: Sun Jan 11, 2004 10:10 pm Post subject: |
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Dag Scott that photo is dead on. How in the world did you get that pic? Either you are a circus act performer or you are smallish and could fit inside the engine bay. Anyway you are THE MAN thanks !!!!! |
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Scotts 63 23 Samba Member
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Posted: Sun Jan 11, 2004 10:16 pm Post subject: |
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Call me "Tom Thumb"... |
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EverettB Administrator
Joined: April 11, 2000 Posts: 69809 Location: Phoenix Metro
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jeremyrockjock Samba Towbar Builder
Joined: January 01, 2002 Posts: 5008 Location: Richmond, Verjinya
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Posted: Mon Jan 12, 2004 8:50 am Post subject: |
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Scott, you didn't have to cut a hole in the corner of your bus just to get a picture for folks. Thats dedication. _________________ Why buy what you can build.
Step away from the fiberglass and no one gets hurt!! |
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Scotts 63 23 Samba Member
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Posted: Mon Jan 12, 2004 1:52 pm Post subject: |
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Everett said:
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That spring should be painted green though. Get on that! |
I've got that spring down in my studio right now, sitting on my easel and I'm trying to match the green just for you Everett...
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EverettB Administrator
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Posted: Mon Jan 12, 2004 1:55 pm Post subject: |
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Scott's '63 23 wrote: |
Everett said:
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That spring should be painted green though. Get on that! |
I've got that spring down in my studio right now, sitting on my easel and I'm trying to match the green just for you Everett...
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Actually, I wonder if the exposed areas would be green and most of it would be primer because the gun didn't hit it? _________________ How to Post Photos
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NorCalWeekender Samba Member
Joined: April 13, 2000 Posts: 6531 Location: East Bay, CA
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Posted: Mon Jan 12, 2004 1:58 pm Post subject: |
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EverettB wrote: |
Wow, perfect photo.
That spring should be painted green though. Get on that! |
And whatever you do, never paint it a hideous shade of yellow that your wife would hate. (see other thread for details)
-Taylor _________________ 9th Owner of a 1971 Tintop Westy
"Eventually, we sold to a guy for $500 who towed it away to live in it in his parents' driveway. We didn't think it would ever avoid the junk heap on that day." -The 3rd Owner, 1995 |
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Scotts 63 23 Samba Member
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Posted: Mon Jan 12, 2004 2:42 pm Post subject: |
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Everett said:
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Actually, I wonder if the exposed areas would be green and most of it would be primer because the gun didn't hit it? |
You mean they didn't farm out the springs to local artists in Germany who color matched them to the various buses? Where's that personal touch we have grown to expect out of the German assembly line?
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tasb The Distributor Distributor
Joined: April 27, 2002 Posts: 6371 Location: Pentwater, Michigan
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Posted: Mon Jan 12, 2004 4:53 pm Post subject: |
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Installed the spring this afternoon. I have never seen another bus that had one installed though I'm sure they are out there. Most do not know they have one missing.
for those who have know ideas what this is all about the spring adds tension to the elbow prop so all you have to do is push lightly on the tab of the lever to disengage the stay and down comes your lid. Previously I had to push and tug and finagle it loose.
Thanks Again Scott! |
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YellowSplittie Samba Member
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Posted: Mon Jan 12, 2004 5:05 pm Post subject: |
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My '64 has the spring, but the prop is missing.
Anyone have one to sell? |
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Lind Samba Member
Joined: November 06, 2000 Posts: 9915 Location: idaho
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Posted: Mon Jan 12, 2004 5:43 pm Post subject: |
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YellowSplittie wrote: |
My '64 has the spring, but the prop is missing.
Anyone have one to sell? |
I don't have any spare props, but I have about a dozen of those springs. if anyone needs one, email me. |
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jeremyrockjock Samba Towbar Builder
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Posted: Tue Jan 13, 2004 7:32 am Post subject: |
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My 59 had the spring but I had to buy a prop for $50. Of course the prop swivel point was missing from the deck lid (Im sure where ever it is the prop is attached to it) so i canned (cannibulized) one from a later bus deck lid. I used that picture last year to figure out how the prop worked. I was use to the later style with the rollers and had never seen the early style before. _________________ Why buy what you can build.
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cyberdyne systems 101 Sambanator
Joined: September 03, 2004 Posts: 415 Location: in my own little world
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Posted: Thu May 05, 2005 8:07 am Post subject: |
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can someone post a pic of the front side of this bracket that the stay and spring go on as it looks to me as though some of that is missing from my bus
Cheers
Arnie _________________ When I think of something to say - I'll be the first to know
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Scotts 63 23 Samba Member
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Posted: Thu May 05, 2005 8:26 am Post subject: |
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Does this help?
_________________ '63 23 Daily Driver
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BryanM Samba Member
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Posted: Thu May 05, 2005 8:29 am Post subject: |
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Scott you rock so hard. great pics.
wasnt someone cranking out some repro springs? _________________ -Bryan
Motorwagen LLC
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Scotts 63 23 Samba Member
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cyberdyne systems 101 Sambanator
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Posted: Thu May 05, 2005 8:44 am Post subject: |
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Great pic! yes it does help, need to get out and compare it now. My stay will connect to the bracket on the bus but comes off just as easily, will the spring hold it? In other words I've not been able to get the lid to stay up with the stay and no spring, still I feel i'm getting ever closer to the answer!
Thx so much!
Arnie _________________ When I think of something to say - I'll be the first to know
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