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guskillface Samba Member
Joined: November 03, 2012 Posts: 26 Location: Saint Louis
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Posted: Sat Jan 26, 2013 9:07 am Post subject: Turn signals are acting as emergency flashers. The hell?! |
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So, in dash, going in either direction, both lights come on as if my emergency flashers are on. I installed a new relay, cleaned all the contacts and installed new bulbs. Still happens. Now, on the outside, the operation is correct. Knowing this, I should just reinstall my dash and tell my OCD to take it's meds and get lost. But I can't.
I've run through the entire wiring diagram, and I'm damn certain my wires are correct. Maybe one of you fine gentlemen have a handy solution, for I am sick of seeing all these damn wires. |
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CessnaJon Samba Member
Joined: August 15, 2008 Posts: 677 Location: Senoia,GA
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Posted: Sat Jan 26, 2013 9:14 am Post subject: |
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This is the way it should work. _________________ 1973 Westy (shared birthday)
1990 Westy Multivan
2015 Passat TDI 6sp
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peaceful warrior Samba Member
Joined: January 22, 2005 Posts: 5274 Location: Taoswest, USA
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Posted: Sat Jan 26, 2013 9:25 am Post subject: Re: Turn signals are acting as emergency flashers. The hell? |
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guskillface wrote: |
So, in dash, going in either direction, both lights come on as if my emergency flashers are on. I installed a new relay, cleaned all the contacts and installed new bulbs. Still happens. Now, on the outside, the operation is correct. Knowing this, I should just reinstall my dash and tell my OCD to take it's meds and get lost. But I can't.
I've run through the entire wiring diagram, and I'm damn certain my wires are correct. Maybe one of you fine gentlemen have a handy solution, for I am sick of seeing all these damn wires. |
Do you mean when you push up or down on the turn signal arm, all four signals come on? _________________ "Two things are infinite: The universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the universe." Albert Einstein
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NoBudgetVWGarage Samba Member
Joined: November 27, 2008 Posts: 755 Location: Quartz Hill,CA
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Posted: Sat Jan 26, 2013 9:30 am Post subject: |
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The light in the dash is 1 light. It does NOT light the left arrow when turning left or visa versa... capishe? _________________ 1969 Transporter
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peaceful warrior Samba Member
Joined: January 22, 2005 Posts: 5274 Location: Taoswest, USA
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Posted: Sat Jan 26, 2013 9:32 am Post subject: |
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X3. Read your original question incorrectly. _________________ "Two things are infinite: The universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the universe." Albert Einstein
"Notchboy" says "Man up!"
"Tram" says " My bus is bigger than your bus."
66 13W Deluxe, 68 Westfalia, 87 Syncro.
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CoastalAirCooledVW Samba Member
Joined: September 02, 2012 Posts: 1882 Location: Mckinleyville, CA (Humboldt County)
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Posted: Sat Jan 26, 2013 10:14 am Post subject: |
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bajaman73 wrote: |
The light in the dash is 1 light. It does NOT light the left arrow when turning left or visa versa... capishe? |
And all this time I had been thinking mine was broken _________________ 1966 Velvet Green Standard |
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guskillface Samba Member
Joined: November 03, 2012 Posts: 26 Location: Saint Louis
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Posted: Sat Jan 26, 2013 10:27 am Post subject: |
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seriously?? both lights in dash come on for the blinkers? interesting
but yeah, emergency flashers work as all 4 outside and the turn signals work correctly outside. just thought i had a wire crossed to where they didn't work in dash. oops!
thanks, guys! |
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kreemoweet Samba Member
Joined: March 13, 2008 Posts: 3889 Location: Seattle, WA
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Posted: Sat Jan 26, 2013 10:29 am Post subject: |
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CessnaJon wrote: |
This is the way it should work. |
Well, that is the way VW made them to work. Of course, we all know down deep in our guts that it is
just wrong, wrong, wrong. All you need is a couple of the 2-terminal dash bulb holders and a little rewiring
to make them work like just about every other car in the world works, and as God intended. _________________ '67 bug: seized by the authorities
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'71 kombi: not yet seized by the authorities
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BUSBOSS Samba Member
Joined: January 21, 2009 Posts: 2161 Location: Northern California
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Posted: Sat Jan 26, 2013 12:05 pm Post subject: |
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kreemoweet wrote: |
CessnaJon wrote: |
This is the way it should work. |
Well, that is the way VW made them to work. Of course, we all know down deep in our guts that it is
just wrong, wrong, wrong. All you need is a couple of the 2-terminal dash bulb holders and a little rewiring
to make them work like just about every other car in the world works, and as God intended. |
Not my God. They are just as my God intended according to the good book. _________________ All the redemption I can offer, girl, is beneath this dirty hood
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NCdad Samba Member
Joined: August 28, 2008 Posts: 1525 Location: South Carolina
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Posted: Sat Jul 26, 2014 1:20 pm Post subject: |
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LOL, Thanks for posting this...
I didn't realize that the Turn Signal Indicator Arrows were supposed to blink together in the cluster.
I had a bad bulb and replaced it, and then both were working... WTH?!?
but outside they were working correctly. I think I spent an hour looking for a ground or a connection I missed.
I kept trying to focus on that Black / Green / White wire going to the Emergency Switch, thinking I had it on the wrong terminal.
Finally decided to come search. _________________ ROBERT
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Brian Samba Moderator
Joined: May 28, 2012 Posts: 8340 Location: Oceanside
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Posted: Sat Jul 26, 2014 1:27 pm Post subject: |
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Essentially the dash lights are on a positive ground, so when the relay grounds then the lights can 'flash' _________________ Wash your hands
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telford dorr Samba Member
Joined: March 11, 2009 Posts: 3547 Location: San Diego (Encinitas)
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Posted: Sat Jul 26, 2014 10:02 pm Post subject: |
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There are two turn indicator lamps, a left and a right. They are normally wired together. If you want the turn indicators to blink independently, it's not that hard to do:
1) Get a couple of 12 volt relays. Bosch cube relays will work. Terminal numbers below are for the Bosch relay.
2) Wire one end of each relay coil (terminal 85) to a front turn signal lamp wire. [You can't use the rear turn lamps because on early Bays the brakes would also activate the relay). Wire the other end of the relay coil (terminal 86) to ground. The relays should operate in sync with the front turn signals.
3) Remove the original wires to the turn indicator lamps. Insulate the wire terminals and tie-wrap them out of the way.
4) Wire one contact of each relay (terminal 30) to ground. Wire the other contact of each relay (terminal 87) to a turn indicator (use 0.110" crimp terminals). When a relay closes, it will ground the turn indicator, causing it to light.
Problem solved.
[You can also do this easily with a couple of mosfet transistors instead of relays. I've done it this way on my bus. If interested, I'll post a schematic when I get a minute.]
[By the way, nothing wrong with OCD. But you have to get the letters in the right order: CDO ] _________________ '71 panel, now with FI
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