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PostPosted: Thu Aug 07, 2014 5:33 am    Post subject: wbx eng tear dn? Reply with quote

Tearing dn a wbx eng that is locked solid, probably a spun brng, seems to be a real chore.Pull all liners & 'maybe'get to some rod bolts? Cant see splitting case as far as it will go will help if crank held up by a frozen rod or am I overthinking this?? Done with type 1s ok. Anyone care to comment that has done this?? Have. a 1.9 I want to tear dn. 4 possible salvage, thanks.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 07, 2014 6:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think once you have the heads off and the cylinders slid off, you'll have a better idea of what you are up against. In theory, a rod bearing should seize well ahead of the a main bearing. It is a little difficult to remove the pistons from the rods installed, but if you can, you can split the case with the rods attached to the crankshaft.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 07, 2014 7:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

My thinking is a frozen rod wont allow u to turn crank to get to rod bolts even if liners r pulled neither can u remove piston pins, will try this later, I do have a sawzall if needed.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 07, 2014 7:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

splitting the case sounds easiest - can't you pull the pistons through the block? i never tried, but given how the sleeve fits into the block, i think it should work. certainly kinder than the sawzall.

after you remove the heads, you can remove the 4 water jacket nuts that hold the case together. i had to use a breaker bar on one of those. the rest of the case nuts were easy.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 07, 2014 7:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

morymob wrote:
My thinking is a frozen rod wont allow u to turn crank to get to rod bolts even if liners r pulled neither can u remove piston pins, will try this later, I do have a sawzall if needed.


You might get lucky and find the crank is seized at TDC or it is not the bearings at all, but a cylinder filled with fluid or rusted. I would expect a failed rod bearing to fail completely and come out the case. Some of the cylinder holes have a casting that might make it impossible to get the piston out the bottom.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 07, 2014 12:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

other question is whether it is good practice to just do the whole thing as you have a lot of work in it already
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 07, 2014 8:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thought a bit at times today, if pistons r past top & bottom stroke no pins r coming out. With liners out , if its a rod should be easy which one, the one thst piston dont flop up/dn. Was a quiet good running eng, 1.9, had started it up a few times, last time it idled 4 a couplemin, sputtered & stopped. Tried to restsrt & only a starter click, put a bar on pully nut, no budge either way. Cant remember if u can down the side of pistons to any rod bolts.i also have a good selection of hammers. Might be a worn off oil pump drive or cam slot, never seen one.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 07, 2014 10:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah, I was not thinking... Of course you can pull the sleeves over the pistons once you get the heads off. Then you have easy access to the rod bolts.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 08, 2014 4:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ONLY if u can turn the crank, that is the main problem, locked up tight.
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