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Huetti_1989
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chrisflstf
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Huetti_1989
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chrisflstf
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| Posted: Tue Mar 24, 2020 2:07 pm Post subject: Re: 57 Single Cab repair from Austria |
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bally
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| Posted: Tue Mar 24, 2020 5:42 pm Post subject: Re: 57 Single Cab repair from Austria |
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Great work Christian. The Dove Blue looks amazing and the little details like the ashtray and hole polishing tool are very helpful. Keep up the great work and documentation
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Huetti_1989
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Huetti_1989
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| Posted: Mon Mar 30, 2020 6:39 am Post subject: Re: 57 Single Cab repair from Austria |
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Some process on the Single Cab:
Made some more brake lines new with the same bending like original.(old ones had holes in it as you can see on the pictures.
i bend the most of them before installation.
Some final work on the front suspension:
change the ring where the sealing ring run because it had bad traces from the old sealing rings and destroyed my new rings.
a friend borrow me the tool to measure the number of plates needed at the link pins so i also finished that and make new screws for them with correct splint pins.
Build in the new brake shoes, made a new brake line between the cylinders and cleaned all and made all work again.
when i had the brake drum installed again i heard a little scratching, i thought it comes from the new springs and it was right (you can see the markings from the brake drum on the springs on the picture) and so i found out that the new springs are bent wrong so i take the old ones again.
I ordered a new gas tank, cant wait to try if it fit.
-Christian
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My 1957 semaphore Single Cab:
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=605363&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0
MY 1967 Sparsamba:
https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=757182
My 1954 Deutsche Bundespost Barndoor:
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=621802
My 1961 SO34 Flipseat Westfalia:
https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=716285
My 1991 Westfalia California:
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=650751 |
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Who.Me? 
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| Posted: Mon Mar 30, 2020 1:03 pm Post subject: Re: 57 Single Cab repair from Austria |
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when i had the brake drum installed again i heard a little scratching, i thought it comes from the new springs and it was right (you can see the markings from the brake drum on the springs on the picture) and so i found out that the new springs are bent wrong so i take the old ones again.
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I made that mistake. I bought Bay window springs online because they looked the same as my splitty springs. They rub. I should have believed the description on the website. 
Awesome work on the truck. 
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Looking for info on my truck's history. Are you from Campbell California or nearby. Do you recognise it? ... http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=636786 |
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chrisflstf
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| Posted: Mon Mar 30, 2020 2:12 pm Post subject: Re: 57 Single Cab repair from Austria |
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| The aftermarket springs aren't made correctly. Look at where the last coil is before the middle section. It is clocked wrong. Flipping the spring can help keep it from rubbing on the wheel cylinder or hub on the drum |
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cdennisg
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| Posted: Mon Mar 30, 2020 3:08 pm Post subject: Re: 57 Single Cab repair from Austria |
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| The aftermarket springs aren't made correctly. Look at where the last coil is before the middle section. It is clocked wrong. Flipping the spring can help keep it from rubbing on the wheel cylinder or hub on the drum |
I have run into this, too. I just used original springs with no issues. I can see where those aftermarket springs could maybe be bent or modified if necessary.
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Wade
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| Posted: Mon Mar 30, 2020 7:14 pm Post subject: Re: 57 Single Cab repair from Austria |
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Some process on the Single Cab:
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Hey Christian,
I think you may have your dual circuit brake system plumbed incorrectly. I believe you want the single front master cylinder outlet to go to the rear line and the two rearward master cylinder outlets to go to the two front lines. That way in a failure situation you have either front or rear brakes.
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Who.Me?
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| Posted: Tue Mar 31, 2020 5:06 am Post subject: Re: 57 Single Cab repair from Austria |
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| The aftermarket springs aren't made correctly. Look at where the last coil is before the middle section. It is clocked wrong. Flipping the spring can help keep it from rubbing on the wheel cylinder or hub on the drum |
They're not 'clocked' that's how bay window (and late splitty) springs are. The joining 'bar' runs across level with the middle of the coils. Early splitty ones run across level with the 'top' of the coils (or 'bottom' depending which way up you're holding them).
It winds me up that loads of vendors sell a front brake spring fitting kit that they claim covers 55-70.
55-63 springs are different to 63-70 springs. The even have different part number suffixes. The later ones have a 'B' suffix.
I couldn't find a vendor that actually sold a correct 55-63 spring, so I had to reuse the old ones when I redid the brakes a few years ago. I think I still have one 68-70 spring because it came with it.
Only the upper or lower one that actually rubs (can't remember which), so I swapped them round to make them work.
The later ones can't be bent to fit. I tried and just ruined the bay springs that I'd bought 
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Huetti_1989
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Huetti_1989
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| Huetti_1989 wrote: |
when i had the brake drum installed again i heard a little scratching, i thought it comes from the new springs and it was right (you can see the markings from the brake drum on the springs on the picture) and so i found out that the new springs are bent wrong so i take the old ones again.
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I made that mistake. I bought Bay window springs online because they looked the same as my splitty springs. They rub. I should have believed the description on the website.
Awesome work on the truck. |
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| The aftermarket springs aren't made correctly. Look at where the last coil is before the middle section. It is clocked wrong. Flipping the spring can help keep it from rubbing on the wheel cylinder or hub on the drum |
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| chrisflstf wrote: |
| The aftermarket springs aren't made correctly. Look at where the last coil is before the middle section. It is clocked wrong. Flipping the spring can help keep it from rubbing on the wheel cylinder or hub on the drum |
I have run into this, too. I just used original springs with no issues. I can see where those aftermarket springs could maybe be bent or modified if necessary. |
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| chrisflstf wrote: |
| The aftermarket springs aren't made correctly. Look at where the last coil is before the middle section. It is clocked wrong. Flipping the spring can help keep it from rubbing on the wheel cylinder or hub on the drum |
They're not 'clocked' that's how bay window (and late splitty) springs are. The joining 'bar' runs across level with the middle of the coils. Early splitty ones run across level with the 'top' of the coils (or 'bottom' depending which way up you're holding them).
It winds me up that loads of vendors sell a front brake spring fitting kit that they claim covers 55-70.
55-63 springs are different to 63-70 springs. The even have different part number suffixes. The later ones have a 'B' suffix.
I couldn't find a vendor that actually sold a correct 55-63 spring, so I had to reuse the old ones when I redid the brakes a few years ago. I think I still have one 68-70 spring because it came with it.
Only the upper or lower one that actually rubs (can't remember which), so I swapped them round to make them work.
The later ones can't be bent to fit. I tried and just ruined the bay springs that I'd bought |
Yea looks like a common wrong part, i am happy that i can reuse the original ones, one time more i learned to compared the new part with the old one.
-Christian
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My 1957 semaphore Single Cab:
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=605363&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0
MY 1967 Sparsamba:
https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=757182
My 1954 Deutsche Bundespost Barndoor:
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=621802
My 1961 SO34 Flipseat Westfalia:
https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=716285
My 1991 Westfalia California:
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=650751 |
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wcfvw69
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| Posted: Tue Mar 31, 2020 6:17 am Post subject: Re: 57 Single Cab repair from Austria |
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| The aftermarket springs aren't made correctly. Look at where the last coil is before the middle section. It is clocked wrong. Flipping the spring can help keep it from rubbing on the wheel cylinder or hub on the drum |
They're not 'clocked' that's how bay window (and late splitty) springs are. The joining 'bar' runs across level with the middle of the coils. Early splitty ones run across level with the 'top' of the coils (or 'bottom' depending which way up you're holding them).
It winds me up that loads of vendors sell a front brake spring fitting kit that they claim covers 55-70.
55-63 springs are different to 63-70 springs. The even have different part number suffixes. The later ones have a 'B' suffix.
I couldn't find a vendor that actually sold a correct 55-63 spring, so I had to reuse the old ones when I redid the brakes a few years ago. I think I still have one 68-70 spring because it came with it.
Only the upper or lower one that actually rubs (can't remember which), so I swapped them round to make them work.
The later ones can't be bent to fit. I tried and just ruined the bay springs that I'd bought |
Link
This guy ran into the problem with the springs and how he installed them.
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Huetti_1989
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wcfvw69
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| Posted: Fri Apr 03, 2020 10:00 am Post subject: Re: 57 Single Cab repair from Austria |
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On preventing rusting on bare drums, I've always painted them with flat or semi gloss high temp spray cans after masking off the brake pad surfaces.
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**Now rebuilding throttle bodies for VW's and Porsche's**
**Restored German Bosch distributors for sale or I can restore yours**
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Wade
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| Posted: Fri Apr 03, 2020 11:03 am Post subject: Re: 57 Single Cab repair from Austria |
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The new brake plumbing looks great, Christian. I just did the exact same job which is why your's caught my eye.
Beautiful truck. Can't wait to see it all done and rolling.
Regards,
-Greg |
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