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PostPosted: Mon Nov 05, 2012 4:47 pm    Post subject: new pedal cluster feel... Reply with quote

i just picked my car up from my mechanic from getting the pedal cluster replaced in a 71 super beetle. the old cluster we believe was the original and it snapped at the elbow on the clutch pedal. so i wanted to replace the whole thing and cables. my question is, is the new cluster suppose to feel like a hot knife through butter? basically im just concerned about the ease, compared to what ive been dealing with the last 2 years with the old one... thanx in advance.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 05, 2012 4:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You'd be amazed to the amount of dirt and grit that gets into the cluster. I rebuilt mine a few years ago and wished I did it sooner.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 05, 2012 4:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oh ya repair my clutch lever and after the dissassemby and reassembly by golly smooth as silk.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 05, 2012 5:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

haha, it felt to good to be true so i just wanted to make sure... Very Happy
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 05, 2012 5:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I replaced the pedal cluster on my '60 with a rebuilt unit from Scott at Pedalwerks. The difference was night and day. In my case I replaced it because of wear on the clutch shaft hook.
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 16, 2014 12:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Glenn wrote:
You'd be amazed to the amount of dirt and grit that gets into the cluster. I rebuilt mine a few years ago and wished I did it sooner.


Hey Glenn , I want to rebuilt the one on my 74 sb , did you buy a kit ? Or what all did you use to get it done? Tanks..
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 16, 2014 1:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rebuild the cluster,

1 step further,

Whiles its out:

hook some clear rubber tubing over the clutch tube inside the frame where the pedal cluster WAS. (get it at home depot/lowes)

Then, at the rear remove the bowden tube, and spray cans of carb cleaner down the tube to clean the old grease/dirt etc out. followed by compressed air.

Repeat until clear carb cleaner runs out the end at the front. (brake cleaner works well too)

Then install a new bowden tube, with plenty of new grease!

Do the same for the throttle cable tube.

Make sure to grease your new cables VERY well!

You will be amazed at the crap that comes out of those tubes!

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 16, 2014 1:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

When I redid mine 2 years ago I got a lot more pedal travel. I can remember having to adjust the pedal stops to place it in a more comfortable travel range (especially brake pedal). Seems the rust was limiting travel a lot before the overhaul. You may need to do some adjusting to make it feel right after the cleaning.
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 16, 2014 3:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mr. Duncan, I like the idea of the clear tubing over the clutch tube, by the pedal cluster. I had a heck of a time installing a new clutch cable--and I have long fingers Shocked

Yep, we go for years pushing on that clutch pedal, thinking this is the way it's supposed to be. Then, you go to take the pedal cluster apart and re-grease everything, and it's so smooth that you could kick yourself for not doing it before.

I had to install a new clutch cable and clutch shaft. The shaft I got was one of those uniqueparts shafts with the bearing, instead of a hook. I greased that baby up, and pressing down on the shaft was so smooth, you think something is wrong at first.

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 16, 2014 4:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tim Donahoe wrote:


I had to install a new clutch cable and clutch shaft. The shaft I got was one of those uniqueparts shafts with the bearing, instead of a hook. I greased that baby up, and pressing down on the shaft was so smooth, you think something is wrong at first.

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I got the same clutch shaft too, it's amazing! Really helps with re-installation as the cable can't slip off!

The clear tubing is for a drain, so you don't drain all that fluid and crap into the tunnel Wink
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 16, 2014 8:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oh, I figured you installed a length of clear tubing that tightly fit the outside diameter of the clutch tube--like and inch or so--so that it would extend the clutch tube's length a bit and make it easier to thread the next clutch cable into the tube (but not get in the way of the cable's working business).

Hm? Maybe a new idea has been accidentally created--like Viagra Rolling Eyes .

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 16, 2014 8:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've always used my left fingers to form a channel for the clutch cable end to guide into the hidden clutch tube, never had any trouble (medium size hands).
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 17, 2014 9:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I rebuilt my cluster this evening, and installed a new clutch hook shaft with the roller sleeve instead of the original hook.

Good thing, too. The original looks like it could have snapped any day now!

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Pedals feel great now! My bushings were all in good shape, so I just cleaned them well and put fresh grease on everything. Night and day difference. Totally worth the effort.
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