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PostPosted: Wed Oct 08, 2014 5:48 pm    Post subject: Rescue a Syncro 16 Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Wed Oct 08, 2014 5:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Wed Oct 08, 2014 6:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

A clear example of why you don't want to use foam insulation behind panels.
Seriously doubt there's anything worth saving.
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 08, 2014 6:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would have never said there was a 16'' syncro not worth saving......
But I think you found it.

Foam caused this, and you'll never get it all out, so you'll never be able to actually fix it. Thus, I would say you've got a donor vehicle at best.

I saw a ford that someone filled with foam once, it soaked up salt spray and absolutely fell apart in short order. It was astonishing.
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 08, 2014 7:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

How much is a good 15 worth?

I know of sports cars that were completely rebuilt around a VIN plate.


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PostPosted: Wed Oct 08, 2014 7:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just let Ben fix it. He loves that $#!T. Laughing
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 08, 2014 7:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

send it here to san diego, i'll save it Wink

there's a lot of work there to be done, if you have to pay a shop to do it, it'll cost you
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 08, 2014 7:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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One thousand words right there!
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Looks like Dragons organs exploding! Shocked
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 08, 2014 7:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Andrew A. Libby wrote:
Just let Ben fix it. He loves that $#!T. Laughing


I can hear a stream of French obscenities floating down from Canada on the cool night air... Laughing Laughing
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 08, 2014 7:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Doesn't look too bad.

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PostPosted: Wed Oct 08, 2014 7:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Totally fixable.
Save a 16.
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 08, 2014 8:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This guy may not be worth saving today but I guarantee in another few years people will be begging for a van like this to restore. Look at some of the formerly worthless crap that the split window guys are restoring these days.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 09, 2014 6:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

MsTaboo wrote:
A clear example of why you don't want to use foam insulation behind panels.
Seriously doubt there's anything worth saving.


Yes, using foam or other in places where water/humidity cannot dry is the worst you can to to a van.
Also the original shit in a westy behind the kitchen should be removed as soon as possible.

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PostPosted: Thu Oct 09, 2014 6:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Any one of the 2138 original syncro 16 models are worth saving. And as Danbar says, in a few years we will regret it if this went to the crusher.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 09, 2014 7:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Having flashbacks of fixing the rust on my syncro! And it wasnt a 16.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 09, 2014 8:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

A distinction should be made between open-cell foam and closed-cell foam. There are spray forms of both. Open-cell foam will soak up moisture and rust out a van in a hurry. Closed-cell foam will act as a moisture barrier and prevent panels from rusting if it is sprayed directly onto the panel. Both closed and open cell foam sheets or panels if installed in a manner that does not include a completely air-tight seal from the air in the interior of the vehicle will allow warm moist air to get behind the foam where the air will cool and the moisture will condense into liquid where it will rust the panel.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 09, 2014 9:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

seems like an over reaction to me to say this was due to foam, there are wide open panels, beams etc that are rusted right through, this thing looks like it has been sitting in a field for years and years, every last thing is rusted.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 09, 2014 9:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Also looks like a lot of less-than-effective rust prevention measures at some point in the past, as well as a suspect window project...
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 09, 2014 10:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

That's about on par with my Tristar when I first got it. Not nice but salvageable.

There was a Syncro 16 Doka within the UK which was for sale quite cheaply but was worse than this van.

It was bought by one of the local Syncro crowd, stripped of most parts (I don't he knew exactly what he was doing) and then crushed.

Shame really as the majority of T3s are savable, especially a Syncro 16 Doka.

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Oh, I did offer to buy the bodyshell from him in return for the Syncro specific parts (plus or expertise) that he was going to cut off and even offered to collect the van and strip the parts off for him to make it a better deal but he wasn't interested.

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