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PostPosted: Thu Oct 23, 2014 2:28 am    Post subject: Re: D Reply with quote

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Another thing that seems odd, if you look at the photos below, do the prototypes have a two piece door frame?


most probably fully framed vent windows
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 23, 2014 3:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Leading cargo door not fully open also suggests clunky door handles.

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I think that this hand made bus used side doors made from one piece with the outside swage line panels added afterwards as you can not see them on the inside. The lip of the upper strengthener would also sit in the recess if they had of been there.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 23, 2014 4:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nothing important to add, but fascinating thread, and great spot the difference skills guys!
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 23, 2014 5:31 am    Post subject: Re: D Reply with quote

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Another thing that seems odd, if you look at the photos below, do the prototypes have a two piece door frame?



No, the front 'half' is the back edge of the quarter light
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 23, 2014 8:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Super cool pics!
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 23, 2014 12:59 pm    Post subject: G & I Reply with quote

Just making the connection that G and I could very well be the same Prototype.
Similar light colour, same trailing cargo door buffer (some do not have this), same beltline trim.

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^Bus updated to display how they were an ideal business promotion tool? Now c/w sill scuff marks.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 23, 2014 1:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Going with Prototype D.
Check that roof-line*. Early Colombian.


*Welded using 3 pieces? More bulbous front and back than production.


on this one, the front emblem was screwed from outside, very funny!


sorry, wrong information. all prototypes had outside screwed vw emblems.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 23, 2014 1:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

here´s a better shot of the door handel.. maybe someone else can figure out, where this one is from.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 24, 2014 1:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

handle looks a bit like early 356 with the extra pushbutton and lock in the button.
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would fit the time frame, hnadles introduced in the 1950 Porsche models
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 25, 2014 10:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

More pics from Prototype D

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Look mirror arm base and short wiper blade

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PostPosted: Sat Oct 25, 2014 10:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Look "deck lid prop" on the left, very similar to the early Beetle Split Window-style "hood prop"

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PostPosted: Sat Oct 25, 2014 10:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

dead cool pics!
so similar, really, to the production run. even the design of the cab door windows.
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 25, 2014 11:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Prototype B1

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Look the curious vent window latch knob and the slidind window opened

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PostPosted: Sat Oct 25, 2014 11:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Prototype F

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Look: inner cargo door handle with chrome bezel

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PostPosted: Sat Oct 25, 2014 11:37 am    Post subject: F Reply with quote

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Prototype F
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Previous F picture showed a two-tone bumper

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Prototype bulkhead panel pleats continue to the floor
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Cargo mat looks to be carpet, with edge trim?
So too, come to think of it, does the cab mat of B1 (p1):
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 25, 2014 12:22 pm    Post subject: Re: F Reply with quote

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Prototype F
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Previous F picture showed a two-tone bumper

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and it lost his pinstripes.. Confused
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 25, 2014 12:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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they look different Sad
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 25, 2014 1:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

My Richard Copping book says 8 Prototypes were built.
The first of these 8 Prototypes was built twice.

I'm currently thinking these 8 Prototypes were made up of:
>5 Panel Vans
>2 Kombis
>1 Standard
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 25, 2014 3:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Richard Copping book shows the pic below:

"The inner of one Prototype or one of the very early Kombi".

Look: cargo door lower latch, cargo door strap, weird pop out window latch, rudimentary rear seats and...rear luggage mesh.


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PostPosted: Sat Oct 25, 2014 4:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What kind of latch is this?

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Not the same as the very early model

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