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PostPosted: Thu Oct 30, 2014 5:06 am    Post subject: Re: F/F1 Reply with quote

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Assuming this is a Prototype pic, lets add it to the one Standard we know of (F/F1)
Some previous pics from p1/p3/p4:

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PostPosted: Thu Oct 30, 2014 6:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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looks like this early production prototype bus then had a mixture of both or maybe the rear window stolen form an earlier model with the recess. Note the sealing bar has been swapped to the rear inner glass the same as the production models of "now".

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Fantastic pictures, especially the "new" ones that are surfacing


but the "recess" is on the outer window. so i guess this is the very early production line bus. later on they checked, the recess is not nessesary..


It must be a production model, look t the position of the hinge
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 30, 2014 8:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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i also like the window surrounding. it seams they used the screwed version on the cargo and inside the bus. nice..


johnny d, "window surrounding... screwed version"...I never heard about it. Can you tell more please Question
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 30, 2014 8:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

yesterday I was checking the transporter guide by David Eccles.
It talks about a number of prototypes given being built, and also talks about exact dates with specific information about changes in the plans of the pre production prototypes.

It also talks about a first and second generation of prototypes (that second generation, having horizontal engine vents and inner fuel filler).

Anybody knows what are that 'second generation' of prototypes? Maybe that prototypes has higher front hinges and other later features closer to the final production models...

just a thougt, I don't have the book in front of me... Wink
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 30, 2014 9:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

xavi_242 wrote:
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It also talks about a first and second generation of prototypes (that second generation, having horizontal engine vents and inner fuel filler).

Anybody knows what are that 'second generation' of prototypes? Maybe that prototypes has higher front hinges and other later features closer to the final production models...


My guess would be that there is a long way between the 10 hand built prototypes and the Die pressed assembly line product. Once that line was built, assembly production tests would be made, quality issues addressed and pre chassis number vehicles road tested to check for issues.

Just a guess too but I always regarded the "prototype" at the VW museum to be from that batch of vehicles possibly.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 30, 2014 2:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Scotty wrote:
johnny d wrote:
52panelvan wrote:

looks like this early production prototype bus then had a mixture of both or maybe the rear window stolen form an earlier model with the recess. Note the sealing bar has been swapped to the rear inner glass the same as the production models of "now".

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Fantastic pictures, especially the "new" ones that are surfacing


but the "recess" is on the outer window. so i guess this is the very early production line bus. later on they checked, the recess is not nessesary..


It must be a production model, look t the position of the hinge


yes, indeed, but i gues a very early one, because of the screwed front emblem and that recess used in the windows.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 30, 2014 2:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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yesterday I was checking the transporter guide by David Eccles.
It talks about a number of prototypes given being built, and also talks about exact dates with specific information about changes in the plans of the pre production prototypes.

It also talks about a first and second generation of prototypes (that second generation, having horizontal engine vents and inner fuel filler).

Anybody knows what are that 'second generation' of prototypes? Maybe that prototypes has higher front hinges and other later features closer to the final production models...

just a thougt, I don't have the book in front of me... Wink


first generetion, was the one with the beetle chassis, the second one was the typ29 we discus here about.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 30, 2014 2:30 pm    Post subject: Re: D Reply with quote

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D has 4 clear roof joins, so a 5-piece roof
No discernible gutter/gutter pattern either, unlike all the other Prototypes
Can see the forward outrigger shape...
Stating the obvious, but it has to be the first Prototype

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Plattenwagen, just noticed the semaphores and wiper motor
You'd have thought the barndoor would have received a version of its glovebox!

Yes, the BD steering wheel is ace. And the Prototype version is handsome too
Johnny D my boy, please post up some more of the information you hold.


i just read, this was first driving March 11th 1949.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 30, 2014 2:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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i also like the window surrounding. it seams they used the screwed version on the cargo and inside the bus. nice..


johnny d, "window surrounding... screwed version"...I never heard about it. Can you tell more please Question


i was talking about these:
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 04, 2014 4:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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found this pic in a german book, maybe this is the same bus?
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 04, 2014 4:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

i also found this drawing
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they wrote on 12th of Nov, four Prototypes where be shown for the press.
Two weeks befor the presentation, the busses wasn´t even painted.
They build the four busses in a very short time..
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 04, 2014 7:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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found this pic in a german book, maybe this is the same bus?
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- bumper end with 2 bolts?
- door handle chromed x painted?
*remembering again that this is not a Prototype, but a production model
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 04, 2014 10:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

a little off topis but this bus is the same (and the same pic, BTW):

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from: http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=611159
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 04, 2014 10:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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do i look right, did this hasn´t a raingutter?
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 04, 2014 1:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I guess this is a good place for these as well. Wind tunnel testing designs
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 04, 2014 2:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

And let's not forget this brochure featuring the prototypes Wink

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PostPosted: Tue Dec 19, 2017 8:59 am    Post subject: Re: The Prototypes Reply with quote

Hi!

Yesterday i met a guy from an oldtimer club here in Austria.
He told me about a rumor or - lets say a dicussion - about a picture from 1949. As i was told the photo can be found in several books and shows up every few years somewhere.

The story:
Richard Strauss was a german componist. He died in 1949 in Garmisch Partenkirchen. And not long before he died someone took a picture of him. Or at least it shows the village where he lived at the end. I can't remember. But in the background you can see the front of a vehicle. A vehicle that looks like a VW Bus - and now the guy from yesterday told me that this is an neverending discussion. Here's why:

Some say it is a Prototype of a Type 2 Volkswagen Bus.
Others say the picture has been taken in 1950.
Then there are people who think that it just shows a car that looks quite similar.
Or is it some kind of time travel? Think Very Happy

Did anyone of you ever hear about this story? Or did anyone every see that photo? Don't want to hurt any copyrights of a publishing company, but i am quite interested in seeing this picture now!
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 13, 2019 2:09 pm    Post subject: Re: The Prototypes Reply with quote

Here’s a general info card I have on the 1949 Prototype
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 13, 2019 3:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

xavi_242 wrote:
a little off topis but this bus is the same (and the same pic, BTW):

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Wow! VW is referring to a "standard" as the VW Midget Bus! I wonder why this term never stuck. Question
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Undis wrote:
Here is my contribution. Nice, crisp, detailed shot of three buses together. The light on dark panel, dark on light window bus and the light coloured Delicatessen panel. Going by the checkered floor tiles it is the same place - Wolfsburg? Is it the same time though? Could possibly be. Nice lineup for the press.

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Only the second picture I’ve seen on the chequered floor

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Would really like to see a colour picture of the Delikatessen Panel...
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