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andre b Samba Member
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Posted: Wed Oct 29, 2014 7:08 am Post subject: |
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wow..thats cool. |
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xavi_242 Samba Member
Joined: May 06, 2005 Posts: 1672 Location: Barcelona (SPAIN)
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Posted: Wed Oct 29, 2014 7:15 am Post subject: Re: D |
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No front and weird rear jank points?
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RockStock Samba Member
Joined: November 26, 2004 Posts: 3929 Location: England
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Posted: Wed Oct 29, 2014 7:30 am Post subject: Jack points |
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it looks like D has only one rear jack point? visible in some of the other photos, all the rest have two incl the one on the trailer [J] with the round jack points |
Jack point design looks to be a good clue to identifying the first couple of prototypes. _________________ -StockRocks- |
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mandraks Samba Member
Joined: November 28, 2004 Posts: 7050 Location: Lawrenceville, Ga
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Posted: Wed Oct 29, 2014 7:52 am Post subject: Re: Jack points |
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RockStock wrote: |
from p2
otahuhu wrote: |
it looks like D has only one rear jack point? visible in some of the other photos, all the rest have two incl the one on the trailer [J] with the round jack points |
Jack point design looks to be a good clue to identifying the first couple of prototypes. |
they probably did not realize till later on that you might need a front jackpoint in case the cargo area is full. On an empty bus front jackpoints are useless _________________ regards
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johnny d Samba Member
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Posted: Wed Oct 29, 2014 8:12 am Post subject: |
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Capriacci wrote: |
Sorry, not one Prototype, but curiously the front emblem screwed from outside and the finger pull on the sliding glass - with butterfly latch - are visible
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so it seams the very early ones had some prototype units still using. _________________ GermanRestoKommando
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Capriacci Samba Member
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52panelvan Samba Member
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Posted: Wed Oct 29, 2014 12:02 pm Post subject: |
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I'm sorry but my contribution is merely an observational one again but I don't think this has been raised.
So it looks like on the front doors the rear window slid forward and had a finger recess in the glass at the front and rear to pull push the glass and the front window is the fixed one. Also the seal was on the outer window and not the inner window to allow it to slide..Its open on these two pictures although neither bus in the top pic looks to have the seal installed at all.
and while you can see the seal bar clearly on the one above, it being on the outer window is very clear to see on this one
looks like this early production prototype bus then had a mixture of both or maybe the rear window stolen form an earlier model with the recess. Note the sealing bar has been swapped to the rear inner glass the same as the production models of "now".
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johnny d Samba Member
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Posted: Wed Oct 29, 2014 12:56 pm Post subject: |
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i guess they would more with fine ribbs, like the later ones, but with just a smaler hat. i also think they where made form aluminium. _________________ GermanRestoKommando
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johnny d Samba Member
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Posted: Wed Oct 29, 2014 12:58 pm Post subject: |
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52panelvan wrote: |
looks like this early production prototype bus then had a mixture of both or maybe the rear window stolen form an earlier model with the recess. Note the sealing bar has been swapped to the rear inner glass the same as the production models of "now".
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but the "recess" is on the outer window. so i guess this is the very early production line bus. later on they checked, the recess is not nessesary.. _________________ GermanRestoKommando
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johnny d Samba Member
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Posted: Wed Oct 29, 2014 1:08 pm Post subject: |
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What kind of latch is this?
Not the same as the very early model
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for me they look like later ones. like you can see here, there is also a knob above.
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johnny d Samba Member
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Posted: Wed Oct 29, 2014 1:13 pm Post subject: |
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i also like the window surrounding. it seams they used the screwed version on the cargo and inside the bus. nice..
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johnny d Samba Member
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Posted: Wed Oct 29, 2014 1:35 pm Post subject: |
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do we have already this one?
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johnny d Samba Member
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Posted: Wed Oct 29, 2014 1:38 pm Post subject: |
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johnny d wrote: |
Capriacci wrote: |
What kind of latch is this?
Not the same as the very early model
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for me they look like later ones. like you can see here, there is also a knob above.
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so it could be a split popout latch??
the knob looks the same to me. _________________ GermanRestoKommando
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RockStock Samba Member
Joined: November 26, 2004 Posts: 3929 Location: England
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Posted: Wed Oct 29, 2014 1:58 pm Post subject: A |
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johnny d wrote: |
do we have already this one?
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A new picture but yes, that's Prototype A from p1
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Left, Prototype 'A' (a Kombi - signwritten 'Klein-Bus'/Small Bus - single colour - white - chrome trim)
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What is the word after 'Der'?
This bus A looks like the Kombi version of the Panel Van G. _________________ -StockRocks-
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mandraks Samba Member
Joined: November 28, 2004 Posts: 7050 Location: Lawrenceville, Ga
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Posted: Wed Oct 29, 2014 2:11 pm Post subject: Re: A |
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RockStock wrote: |
What is the word after 'Der'?
This bus looks like the Kombi version of the Panel Van G. |
Der neue VW Lieferwagen
the new VW delivery (van) _________________ regards
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djfordmanjack Samba Member
Joined: June 15, 2009 Posts: 2179 Location: Graz, Austria, Europe
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RockStock Samba Member
Joined: November 26, 2004 Posts: 3929 Location: England
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Posted: Wed Oct 29, 2014 4:28 pm Post subject: F/F1 |
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Assuming this is a Prototype pic, lets add it to the one Standard we know of (F/F1)
Some previous pics from p1/p3/p4:
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sled Samba Member
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Posted: Wed Oct 29, 2014 5:14 pm Post subject: |
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obviously an artists rendering, but prototypes depicted
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Capriacci Samba Member
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Posted: Wed Oct 29, 2014 7:10 pm Post subject: |
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OOps...do you recognize anyone in the reflection?
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RockStock Samba Member
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Posted: Thu Oct 30, 2014 2:54 am Post subject: |
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sled wrote: |
obviously an artists rendering, but prototypes depicted
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Yes
A couple of versions can be seen near the top here - French & Flemish
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/archives/lit/type2.php
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