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PostPosted: Sun Jan 21, 2018 12:07 pm    Post subject: Re: 1958 De Luxe Beetle from Morocco Reply with quote

This morning I sanded the glazing putty smooth and shot some self etching primer. To get inside the louvres on the back side of the welds I had to make a 360 degree spray nozzle using a little clear hose, a plug on the far end, and a small drill bit to make 4 holes in the tubing. So it's coated well inside and out. Want to keep the rust away for another 60 years hopefully!

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 14, 2019 11:32 am    Post subject: Re: 1958 De Luxe Beetle from Morocco Reply with quote

So, one day I woke up from a nearly 2 year long nap and thought, ďwhat if the original color of the Moroccan was Glacier Blue and not Capri?Ē
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I am reasonably certain that it is Capri
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 15, 2019 8:18 pm    Post subject: Re: 1958 De Luxe Beetle from Morocco Reply with quote

Yay, youíre back! Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy Itís good to hear from you again! Iím looking forward to watching your progress on the Ď58!
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 15, 2019 10:41 pm    Post subject: Re: 1958 De Luxe Beetle from Morocco Reply with quote

Well, thank you sir! Itís good to be back. Now that middle Georgia has finally reached fall, the garage is cooling off enough to get back to work. Last winter I was on owl shift and Iíll be honest. I did a lot of sleeping.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 18, 2019 6:09 pm    Post subject: Re: 1958 De Luxe Beetle from Morocco Reply with quote

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Yay, youíre back! Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy Itís good to hear from you again! Iím looking forward to watching your progress on the Ď58!

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PostPosted: Sat Nov 23, 2019 8:58 am    Post subject: Re: 1958 De Luxe Beetle from Morocco Reply with quote

Long story short, when I bought both beetles I recognized the best (paint) set of rims I had were on the Ď58 and the Ď64 was the daily driver candidate, so the rims were swapped between the cars. Then a new set of Nankangs went on the Ď64. The Ď58 chassis inherited the Ď64ís rims except for one...the empty spare rim from the Ď58. Now, fast forward 5 years to today. I bought 5 Coker Firestone 5.60R15ís for the Ď58. I am not putting those tires on the really rusty rims. That is coming up in the near future...wheel restoration that is. Iíve ordered the correct colors of paint, L336 deep blue and L82 silver white for the rims and thatís about a week out from arriving. Meanwhile, I turned my eye to the one remaining Ď58 rim. Apparently, when the P.O. painted this car Barney purple, they also painted the rims black except for the empty spare. It was nasty...rusty orange. I just assumed it was black like the rest. So, I sat it on a shelf and there it stayed for 5 years. Yesterday morning, I stuck it in a citric acid bath overnight. This is what came out of the bath this morning
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The color was under all the rust! I have a pattern to go by now.
Since this car will never be a concourse quality car due to the front end damage, and letís face it, Iím just not that good, Iíll paint the Ď64ís donor rims to match the original wheel. Itís nice to see all the original paint under all that rust. Citric Acid...it is amazing!

More to follow...
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 24, 2019 8:51 am    Post subject: Re: 1958 De Luxe Beetle from Morocco Reply with quote

Yesterday I pulled a wheel off the Moroccan pan. It looked like this.
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Lots of surface rust. No pitting, but everything is evenly coated rust.
An hour and a half later the tire was off. I forgot how big a pain in the rear de-mounting a tire was. Then I dropped it in the citric acid bath about 7pm last night. 10:30 this morning it looks like this
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My wife has decided I should switch wheels back to the 58 from the 64, ďSo, the right wheel years will be on the right car.Ē Ugh!
I think Iíll take the remaining tires and rims to Mavis Tire to de-mount.
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 24, 2019 9:48 am    Post subject: Re: 1958 De Luxe Beetle from Morocco Reply with quote

flyboy161 wrote:
Long story short, when I bought both beetles I recognized the best (paint) set of rims I had were on the Ď58 and the Ď64 was the daily driver candidate, so the rims were swapped between the cars. Then a new set of Nankangs went on the Ď64. The Ď58 chassis inherited the Ď64ís rims except for one...the empty spare rim from the Ď58. Now, fast forward 5 years to today. I bought 5 Coker Firestone 5.60R15ís for the Ď58. I am not putting those tires on the really rusty rims. That is coming up in the near future...wheel restoration that is. Iíve ordered the correct colors of paint, L336 deep blue and L82 silver white for the rims and thatís about a week out from arriving. Meanwhile, I turned my eye to the one remaining Ď58 rim. Apparently, when the P.O. painted this car Barney purple, they also painted the rims black except for the empty spare. It was nasty...rusty orange. I just assumed it was black like the rest. So, I sat it on a shelf and there it stayed for 5 years. Yesterday morning, I stuck it in a citric acid bath overnight. This is what came out of the bath this morning
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The color was under all the rust! I have a pattern to go by now.
Since this car will never be a concourse quality car due to the front end damage, and letís face it, Iím just not that good, Iíll paint the Ď64ís donor rims to match the original wheel. Itís nice to see all the original paint under all that rust. Citric Acid...it is amazing!

More to follow...


Itís amazing how resilient these wheels are. Iíve preserved many wheels for people who figured they were a lost cause.
What are your plans for the one wheel in original paint?
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 24, 2019 9:51 am    Post subject: Re: 1958 De Luxe Beetle from Morocco Reply with quote

Thatís my spare for the Ď58. Iíve a set of 5 wheels for each car. Right now it is my guide for painting the 4 road wheels. Itís missing 4 hubcap clips, but as luck would have it, I have 4 clips and rivets in my ďstashĒ
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 24, 2019 12:32 pm    Post subject: Re: 1958 De Luxe Beetle from Morocco Reply with quote

Old tires off. I did it by hand after driving my truck over the sidewalls to break the bead. Much easier. I still broke a sweat de-mounting the tires from the rims, but 2 rims are in the acid bath, 2 are done, and 1 is waiting in the wings. Iím out for today
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 28, 2019 12:29 pm    Post subject: Re: 1958 De Luxe Beetle from Morocco Reply with quote

Hereís a progressive series of shots on the progress of the rims
In the ďvatĒ of citric acid
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After itís removed and dried with a very light wire brushing
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Primed with self etching primer after itís sanded
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And the center done with L82 Silver White
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Still waiting on the blue for the outer rim
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 30, 2019 1:21 pm    Post subject: Re: 1958 De Luxe Beetle from Morocco Reply with quote

Well, last of the paint arrived today...what do you think?
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1 down, 4 to go
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 30, 2019 3:10 pm    Post subject: Re: 1958 De Luxe Beetle from Morocco Reply with quote

Looking good.

By the way, citric acid has always been my rust removal process of choice like yours. It's cheap, biodegradable and in my case I can immerse my hands in it without any stinging/burns etc.

I have a 100 gallon plastic vat that I immerse everything I can fit into it. The only issue is that it leaves a "Plimsoll mark" (i.e. like the line on a ship) if you leave anything out of the liquid. I learned this the hard way when acid dipping my doors. They didn't quite fit in the vat and after treatment I had no rust in any of the seams or bottom, but had a nice mark where the steel had been slightly eroded by the acid. This mark comes off when sanding so no big deal.

Leaving the part in for a few days can also remove most of the old paint as well although not good on epoxy etc.
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 01, 2019 12:04 pm    Post subject: Re: 1958 De Luxe Beetle from Morocco Reply with quote

Thatís a fact Viking. Citric acid is my go to now for sure.

Well, four wheels done and ready for clear coat. Then itíll be off to Mavis Tire to get them mounted and balanced....next weekend.
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 07, 2019 1:49 pm    Post subject: Re: 1958 De Luxe Beetle from Morocco Reply with quote

Another week of work bites the dust. Today, I took the Coker tires and my rims to Mavis Tire. 3 hours later I got a call saying they were ready for pickup.
A little bit later...
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I also soaked a spare set of hubcaps this week and cleaned them up A LOT!
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Got to clean out my garage again. My work area always becomes a storage area
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 27, 2019 8:54 am    Post subject: Re: 1958 De Luxe Beetle from Morocco Reply with quote

Great to read through your thread. I had forgotten all about it. I am doing much the same thing with a '54:

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PostPosted: Fri Dec 27, 2019 9:12 am    Post subject: Re: 1958 De Luxe Beetle from Morocco Reply with quote

Awesome Don! Itís definitely been slow going the last couple of years. Between shift changes at work and a promotion, Iíve not had a lot of time. Iíve taken the last 2 weeks of the year off and started getting things in order to resume work on the Moroccan. Tires and wheels were done so I could roll the chassis around again. Got my garage cleaned out and now I have 4 pan bolts to drill out and re-tap. After that Iíll paint the bottom of the body and get the interior painted. Then Iíll mate the body and pan.

Iíll look for your thread, cheers!
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 28, 2019 12:38 pm    Post subject: Re: 1958 De Luxe Beetle from Morocco Reply with quote

Interior paint is about 7 days out. I decided to work on some sculpting today to finish out the right front quarter panel. As a refresher, this car had been hit on the right front corner and repairs on it were shoddy to say the least. That and rust formed as a result of metal fatigue and crap-tasting repair job, somebody did.
This was from March 2018, after I hammered a bit trying to retrieve the basic shapes pressed into the panel.
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Rough. But better. I ended up replacing the bumper mount area entirely.
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The after shot
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Yesterday, I started hammering again. And then today I was ready for some filler.
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Two thin layers and itís primed
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 29, 2019 5:54 pm    Post subject: Re: 1958 De Luxe Beetle from Morocco Reply with quote

Sunday was a productive day for me.
Finished the passenger quarter a finding some areas that needed a little finesse
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Patched the remaining rust holes around the back window
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And around the windshield as well
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Now to drill and retap those four pesky pan bolts.
A little interior clean up and then Iíll be ready to paint the interior and mate the pan with the body.
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 29, 2019 10:09 pm    Post subject: Re: 1958 De Luxe Beetle from Morocco Reply with quote

Looking fantastic. Thanks for the updates!
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