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flyboy161 Samba Member
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Posted: Mon Dec 30, 2019 4:30 pm Post subject: Re: 1958 De Luxe Beetle from Morocco |
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Nice job on that quarter. I've got to address around the back window myself. |
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flyboy161 Samba Member
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Posted: Sun Jan 12, 2020 10:50 am Post subject: Re: 1958 De Luxe Beetle from Morocco |
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I puttered around this weekend addressing some of the uglier rust on the car. The passenger door had some rust through spots at the back lower corner. I cut out a 1.2” x 3.5” area and welded in a patch.
There was also some rust that turned into a hole at the bottom of the B pillar once I tapped on it with a hammer. I cut it out. But I’ll need to square it up before I start fabricating a patch. I also need to decide the best course of action for the next issue before I continue.
Finally the heater tube where it enters the heater channel is just yuck. I’m sitting on the fence on this one. I don’t want to replace a heater channel.
If I end up patching that tube I’m going to have to cut into the channel skin to fully treat it. Ugh!
On a happy note, I did find a body shop that’ll spray the car when I’m ready. _________________ My father's 1970 Beetle-
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flyboy161 Samba Member
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flyboy161 Samba Member
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Posted: Mon Jan 20, 2020 10:20 am Post subject: Re: 1958 De Luxe Beetle from Morocco |
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Unfortunately, rust has reared its ugly head again. This time at the A pillar passenger side. Also in the heater tube on the drivers side. You’ve already seen the heater tube and B pillar on the passenger side.
The passenger B pillar.
The bottom of the passenger heater tube
The passenger A pillar. This was one teeny little hole that opened up with some scribe work
The underside of the drivers heater tube.
Nothing to do but replace heater channels. Ugh!
First step was to get the door out of the way.
Surprisingly, all the door screws came out with an impact screwdriver with the exception of one at the lower right outboard position. Drilled it out and then retapped the hole. Fortunately I have a fair stash of hardware I’ve collected over the years. I’ll be ordering Klassic Fab heater channels and a couple of odds and ends. I’ll finish stripping the door while waiting for those to arrive. Collect up some bracing and begin uncovering spot welds. I really did not want to end up doing heater channels, but it’ll be a good opportunity to fix it right. _________________ My father's 1970 Beetle-
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=603879
The 1964...Diamond in the rough
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My 1958 Morocco Bug-
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wcfvw69 Samba Purist
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Posted: Mon Jan 20, 2020 11:02 am Post subject: Re: 1958 De Luxe Beetle from Morocco |
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Jeez, I'm exhausted looking at all that work you're doing.
As my Dad would say when I was a kid "God damn it, if you can't do it right the first time, don't do it at all!" _________________ Contact me at [email protected]
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flyboy161 Samba Member
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Posted: Mon Jan 20, 2020 11:27 am Post subject: Re: 1958 De Luxe Beetle from Morocco |
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Thanks Bill. I’m exhausted just thinking about what’s coming. I will reinstall the door prior to removing the heater channel. I just wanted it out of the way to thoroughly evaluate the rust damage and to depaint the area.
I’m thinking of transitioning away from the wire feed welder for this job as I am a much better oxy-acetylene type of guy. Better for me.
Anyhoo, this promises to be a very slow process with not a lot of frequent updates. I’ll start de-painting and removing seam sealer this week. _________________ My father's 1970 Beetle-
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=603879
The 1964...Diamond in the rough
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=612776
My 1958 Morocco Bug-
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flyboy161 Samba Member
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flyboy161 Samba Member
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Posted: Wed Jan 22, 2020 9:06 am Post subject: Re: 1958 De Luxe Beetle from Morocco |
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Yesterday, I took a break. Today I can only give her an hour and a half, but I made some progress.
At the bottom of the quarter panels...
5 little pin holes
Only 5 layers of paint to go through
The purple, a yellow white primer
A rust colored primer
The Capri blue
And the original primer.
Ugh! On the bright side, I haven’t run across anything awful yet.
When the car was repainted, they sanded the Capri pretty well, so it’s kind of leopard skin pattern under all the other layers. But they left all the original primer. At this rate I’ll be ready to paint in a couple of years, lol _________________ My father's 1970 Beetle-
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The 1964...Diamond in the rough
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My 1958 Morocco Bug-
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Posted: Sun Jan 26, 2020 2:26 pm Post subject: Re: 1958 De Luxe Beetle from Morocco |
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Hey Brother of the same name. Life's not over!
Based on what I have seen from the last few posts. Your car looks better than most from the region lately.
Clean up the rust a little and treat it with Ospho. And move on with the repairs.
Good Luck. _________________ I have learned over the years.
Cheap parts are gonna disappoint you.
Buy Once, Cry Once!
There's never enough time to do it right the first time. But there's always enough time to do it thrice.
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Posted: Mon Feb 10, 2020 4:39 pm Post subject: Re: 1958 De Luxe Beetle from Morocco |
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It’s about to get scary for me😂
Step 1: re-orient the pan under the body the correct direction front to rear
Step 2: receive 2 boxes from Bogota, Columbia
Step 3: open said packages and voilà
One heater channel
One A pillar base
And one rear quarter section
Step 4: test fit the heater channel to the pan....
Perfect fit. I mean absolutely perfect. Gerson makes great parts. I mean these things are heavy gauge steel, for sure. Not flimsy in any way shape or form.
Now, the real fun begins... _________________ My father's 1970 Beetle-
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The 1964...Diamond in the rough
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=612776
My 1958 Morocco Bug-
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Posted: Wed May 06, 2020 7:36 am Post subject: Re: 1958 De Luxe Beetle from Morocco |
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Test fit number 2. I really don’t like being in a hurry, so I just don’t hurry. First test fit was a bust. I had to remover the lower heater muffler, notch the front and rear crossmembers to accept the flanges on the channel and trim 1/4” of the rear crossmember so the channel would slide up past it. It was just residual metal from the old channel. So, Gerson makes great channels! This thing fits like a glove. I’m going to leave it up for a few days while I go to work. Then it will come down for cleanup prior to welding. I’ll tack it in place and then I’ll start replacing the rusty areas on the quarter panels and finish weld. I guess the biggest hurdle has just been confidence but by walking away, breathing, contemplating navel lint, etc., I gain a little confidence and whittle away at it.
It’s a tight fit at the rear crossmember.
And at the front
It warms the heart to see metal under the door again
The front quarter panel section pulls in nicely too
The two clamps are just more for peace of mind. I honestly don’t think it would fall out at this point, the channel fits that tight. _________________ My father's 1970 Beetle-
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The 1964...Diamond in the rough
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=612776
My 1958 Morocco Bug-
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flyboy161 Samba Member
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Posted: Fri May 29, 2020 7:58 am Post subject: Re: 1958 De Luxe Beetle from Morocco |
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Other priorities, other projects...but, today is the last test fit. It took a little grinding to remove remnants of old defrost hose and old heater channel. Everything lines up and is clamped in place.
They weld the defrost hose to the car
I did not end up re-using this. VW switched to paper hoses is 1960, so did I
It fits perfectly
Clamped in place! Paint is removed from the areas to be welded and I don’t feel like welding today. Gotta get ready for work. Tomorrow? We’ll see _________________ My father's 1970 Beetle-
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=603879
The 1964...Diamond in the rough
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=612776
My 1958 Morocco Bug-
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=611483 |
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