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PostPosted: Thu Dec 15, 2016 8:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Looks like kinda similar to the Kats I bought. The mounting is different but overall idea is the same . I like mine, it works well. It wouldn't hurt to try it, I don't think it alone will fix your problem but it will make cold starts easier on the engine. I would use 10/30 in the winter and switch to a better grade gas. It will burn cleaner and leave less water behind to contaminate the oil, I run 91 in my bus.


Unless your gas has less hydrogen in it than regular gas it will make the same amount of water.

For people who only need a block heater for one or two nights a year then a magnetic block heater works pretty well. Of course if you have a Type 1 and you have replaced the original steel cover over the pickup screen with an aluminium cover the magnet will not have anything much to adhere to.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 06, 2015 2:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Looks like kinda similar to the Kats I bought. The mounting is different but overall idea is the same . I like mine, it works well. It wouldn't hurt to try it, I don't think it alone will fix your problem but it will make cold starts easier on the engine. I would use 10/30 in the winter and switch to a better grade gas. It will burn cleaner and leave less water behind to contaminate the oil, I run 91 in my bus.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 06, 2015 2:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This is a 200watt VW type 4-engine oil heater made in Canada by Pryoil.
The instructions say to install on engine case studs and secure with new nuts.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 28, 2014 8:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

So I got to digging around in my parts and here's what I found. Top is a T4 heater made by Cdn Gen. Electric and bottom is a Pyroil heater made in Canada and sold through VW dealers. So if it gets really cold (unlikely here) I'm prepared.

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PostPosted: Sun Nov 23, 2014 12:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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It wasn't that cold out this morning but I decided to try out the heater. I used the IR gun on the sump plate and sump itself, both at 29*. I turned on the heater for 1 hour and this is what I got. Heating element was 220*, sump plate 204* and the side of the sump was 59*. I turned it over with the first hit of the key, there was no starter drag and it sounded much happier as it came to life. Thanks to all who posted. I think this was a good $32.99 investment.


Thanks for the follow up Rich. I think it was indeed a GREAT $32 dollar investment.
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 23, 2014 11:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Don't forget to remove the extension cord before you leave the house.

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I'm looping a bright green extension cord through my driver handle so I don't forget. Smile
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 23, 2014 11:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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It wasn't the foldout this morning but I decided to try out the heater. I used the IR gun on the sump plate and sump itself, both at 29*. I turned on the heater for 1 hour and this is what I got. Heating element was 220*, sump plate 204* and the side of the sump was 59*. I turned it over with the first hit of the key, there was no starter drag and it sounded much happier as it came to life. Thanks to all who posted. I think this was a good $32.99 investment.


Thanks for the definitive report.
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 23, 2014 10:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It wasn't that cold out this morning but I decided to try out the heater. I used the IR gun on the sump plate and sump itself, both at 29*. I turned on the heater for 1 hour and this is what I got. Heating element was 220*, sump plate 204* and the side of the sump was 59*. I turned it over with the first hit of the key, there was no starter drag and it sounded much happier as it came to life. Thanks to all who posted. I think this was a good $32.99 investment.
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 22, 2014 5:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I used sump heaters on several vw's back in the 60's and 70's. 6 volts, straight weight oil and -40`F were not a good mix. Never had one fail or get damaged. Oh yes and the in car 110 v heater was also standard equipment. Even the B2 would take a while to blow hot at -40. Don't miss that one bit.
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What would be cool RICHIE…



Very Happy

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What would be cool RICHIE…



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What would be cool RICHIE is if you could shoot your sump plate area with a laser temp gauge after it's been plugged in for a while. Maybe even pull the dipstick out as well and shoot it too. It would be interesting to know that it's say 30 degrees outside and my sump and dipstick read this temp with it plugged in.


I can do that. I'll try to do that several days to get a good trend.[/b]
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What would be cool Rich is if you could shoot your sump plate area with a laser temp gauge after it's been plugged in for a while. Maybe even pull the dipstick out as well and shoot it too. It would be interesting to know that it's say 30 degrees outside and my sump and dipstick read this temp with it plugged in.
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 22, 2014 2:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

neat. hows it working for you?
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 22, 2014 1:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I recieved the Kats VW-15 oil sump heater yesterday. The box was a little ratty looking but the heater was indeed NOS. It took me around a 1/2 hour to install it with many beer sippin breaks. I was able to zip tie it nicely and make it look clean. I found a plastic cover for the plug ends in the garage. I used wire conduit on the exposed cord under bus to keep it out of the elements, as much as it could be.

The cast on the element was not the best. I went ahead and filed down the rough edges so everything would fit nicely together. I guess I'll see how it works on Monday morning.

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I also took the time and cleaned the air filters with the K&N air cleaner recharger.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 19, 2014 9:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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It seems there are steel clips that bolt under 3 of the sump plate nuts and have ears that stick out the sides and hold the heater up against your engine (which is not included Razz ), looks like the clips have a top hat profile.


About 4 years ago I bought a vintage.....in a box just like that shown....Kats model VW-16. It looks like that but installs differently. It has a sheat metal sheath that runs halfway down the stem. It has an angle iron section that stands up and has two bolt holes that correspond to case nuts. So you bolt it on and it stays on and is in contact with the sump plate. 150 watts. Ray
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 19, 2014 9:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That's good stuff, Tcash!
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 19, 2014 8:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I thought about those. I've seen those on a good amount of trucks. I thought that sticking something like this to the engine might hurt cooling. I understand it's winter and it's not gonna get that hot, but still.

A small one on each intake of the dual carbs would be nice.
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