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PostPosted: Tue Jun 11, 2019 1:58 pm    Post subject: Re: 1964...Diamond in the Rough Reply with quote

I like the mods you put on the car was wondering if you had a pic of your fog light switch location. I'm not sure where I'm going to mount mine.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 12, 2019 4:10 am    Post subject: Re: 1964...Diamond in the Rough Reply with quote

https://www.thesamba.com/vw/archives/manuals/techbulletins/e2.php
I found this dealer installation instructions in the technical section of the forum.
The actual page that describes location is here:
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 11, 2019 9:47 am    Post subject: Re: 1964...Diamond in the Rough Reply with quote

Update time...
17000 miles driven since November 2014. Time for a tune up again. Replaced the fuel filter this morning. I had to replace the condenser about 1000 miles ago. Checked timing and dwell last week and it’s still on the money. This weekend I’ll adjust valves and change the oil.
I let the Diamond sit for about a year after I picked up an M3. I’d drive her occasionally, but for the most part I put just under 3000 miles on her. In the last year and a half.
I had to replace the speedometer also back in 2016 because the odometer would occasionally hang up for 5-10 miles at a time. Overhauled replacement speedometer had 28,800 miles on it replacing the ~68000 mile speedometer. Now the replacement is reading just under 39000 miles. I’m being transparent about this because it does create a substantial difference in miles on the car in case she ever leaves my corral. Doubt that will ever happen. But some eagle eye might see a speedometer picture one day and say, “Hey! That’s not right!!”
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It’s amazing what a little polishing compound, wax prep, and ultimate wax do for the tired old paint.
There’s a show coming up next weekend in Perry Georgia and a local VW club I joined has 22 cars in it. I’ll post up some pictures afterwards
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 08, 2019 8:18 am    Post subject: Re: 1964...Diamond in the Rough Reply with quote

Well, Oktoberfest car show was rained out, so no new pics of that. However, I do have some new content to add.

I’ve been running this motor since I bought the car in 2014 without cooling flaps and thermostat. It’s been fine, but I’ve become a purist and thanks to some old and recent posts I’ve come to seethe error of my ways. In all honesty of all the VW’s I’ve owned over the years there was only one, a ‘63 microbus, that actually had the flaps and thermostat in it. Anyway, I decided to pick up a set I found on the Samba Classifieds. Bought them on Monday and they got here on Thursday. I test fit them, more to remember how they operate, on a spare fan shroud. This morning I tackled the replacement.


At 9:40 my wife left for work. At 9:40:10 I started. Deck lid off. I see my crappy welding I did a couple of years ago has let go, so the Moroccan deck lid will be replacing it.

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Carburetor, Battery disconnected, upper deck lid hinge brackets, generator, coil, and fan shroud removed.
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Parts installed on the Diamond’s fan shroud

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And 38 minutes has elapsed, including this post time
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 08, 2019 8:47 am    Post subject: Re: 1964...Diamond in the Rough Reply with quote

Nice been enjoying your thread. You are a brave man waiting only 10 seconds, I usually wait a full minuet incase she has forgotten something and comes back. Very Happy
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 08, 2019 10:53 am    Post subject: Re: 1964...Diamond in the Rough Reply with quote

Hahaha! That’s a fact. Well, the thermostat is in, everything is back together and I’ve changed out the deck lid. Now, I’ve got to get ready to go to work. More to follow
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 08, 2019 11:50 am    Post subject: Re: 1964...Diamond in the Rough Reply with quote

Nice job putting the flaps/thermostat back in place. It is amazing the difference between a VW running them and not. Especially in the winter time. I drove a late 60's bug with no flaps, thermostat, header/muffler, probably clogged heat risers on the intake manifold, not heat to the oil bath, etc. What a cold blooded dog for the first 10 minutes after starting from cold. Just ran terrible.

With those items in place on my VW/s, I start the VW and drive away with no cold engine symptoms.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 08, 2019 1:54 pm    Post subject: Re: 1964...Diamond in the Rough Reply with quote

You know, Bill, I never really had issues with my bug being cold blooded. It made good heat at the defrost vents. But, I thought why not? It’s a 65-70C thermostat. It never really opened all the way on the way to work today. I’ll probably take a good look at this weekend just to be safe. It didn’t feel any hotter so that’s a bonus. And outside air temp was about 63 degrees F today. Tonight when I get off work temperature will down around 44 degrees. Discharge air at the heads was upwards of 190F and the cylinders were at 140F. That was in the garage at fast idle, about 2400rpm.
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 07, 2019 10:07 am    Post subject: Re: 1964...Diamond in the Rough Reply with quote

A month later and thermostat and flaps are working well on the Diamond. Today I took the fur-babies to Starbucks for puppicinos.
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 04, 2020 11:03 am    Post subject: Re: 1964...Diamond in the Rough Reply with quote

New year, new idea. I installed a lighter awhile back. The thought was, light a cigarette if needed, but mainly power a GPS or charge my phone. A couple of years later I can honestly say it really doesn’t work that way. The lighter really only gets barely warm enough to light a cigarette if you put your face right at the opening and ready to light as soon as you pull the element out (after holding it in about 30 seconds. Charging my phone only worked at highway speed, and that only maintained its current charge. GPS? No. Not happening.

I saw a thread someone posted about getting 12 volts from 6 volts to do something...a radio I think. Someone suggested a step-up transformer. A light literally went on in my head. I ordered a 5-11volt to 12 volt converter off of Amazon. The one I ordered produces steady 12 volt and 10 amp current.

Then, while I was waiting for it to arrive, I had an epiphany. My horn. I’ve been chasing voltage drops on my horn for years. One day last year I was stuck behind someone in a right turn lane at a traffic light and they wanted to go straight. I’m sitting there pushing and pushing to no avail. All I could hear was the horn trying to do its thing. At idle no go. At highway speed it works. But I’m not driving highway speed. I’m stuck through two light changes until this person gets to go. Then I get to thinking about times you might actually need a horn. Like, “come open the garage for me” or “don’t pull in front of me”, or “aieeee, We’re all gonna die!”

So, what if I connect this doo-dad to my cigarette lighter and my horn? The only loss is that the lighter is no longer powered when the car is off. So, I altered a wiring diagram to reflect what I wanted to do.


Fuse 1 is switched power. It powers the horn, brake lights, turn signals, and the windshield wipers. Fuse 8 is battery power and powers the radio and the lighter.

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I cut the horn wire at fuse 1. A new tap there two make 2 connections and reconnected the brake wire to 6 volts. The new wire from fuse 1 goes to terminal 86 on a 6 volt Hella relay I had. 85 on the relay goes to ground. Now, when I switch the ignition on, my relay gets powered closed. When the switch is off the relay contacts open. A new wire goes from fuse 8 to terminal 30 on the relay, the switched contacts. Terminal 87 (normally open contact) goes to power the doo-dad. When ignition is off, doo-dad is off.
Both ground wires (the black ones) on the doo-dad go to car ground point.
The yellow wire on the doo-dad is 12 volt output. That wire feeds the horn and the cigarette lighter. The horn is twice as loud as it was before and works at all engine speeds. The lighter works like it is intended to.
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This is it roughed in. I just need to hard mount the relay. The doo-dad is a winner! the doo-dad is the finned box in front of the speaker.

Now, I can hear some of you saying, “You’ll burn up the horn!”. Nope, I won’t. It’s like leaving a 6 volt starter in a 12 volt system. It works fine. It I’ll probably outlast me. And voltage drop is no longer an issue. No more sick sounding cow horn. Now, it will get the guard shacks attention when he doesn’t hear me pull up.

And I didn’t blow any fuses.
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 04, 2020 11:39 am    Post subject: Re: 1964...Diamond in the Rough Reply with quote

A short video of the end result

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PostPosted: Fri May 08, 2020 9:22 am    Post subject: Re: 1964...Diamond in the Rough Reply with quote

Repainted the original 64 rims and had Coker Firestone tires mounted. At 1” narrower than the Nankang tires that were under before, these tires no longer rub when backing up and wheels full right. The Firestone’s do take some getting used to, but after 2 weeks driving them, I’m happy.

The rims are painted L41 inner disc and L289 outer disc.
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With Nankang tires and 1958 rims
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Firestone 5.60-15 tires and repainted 1964 rims
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Wheels torqued and hubcaps installed
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From the 1964 brochure
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PostPosted: Fri May 08, 2020 9:30 am    Post subject: Re: 1964...Diamond in the Rough Reply with quote

I also installed Hella bulb holders and 6volt H4 headlights. Light pattern is wildly different, but I am enjoying the difference. High beams are now usable and low beam is flatter and slightly wider. Sealed beam 6volt bulbs are getting harder to find, and if I ever convert to 12 volts I am all set.
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The new holders from Hella installed. Fit perfectly
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Sealed beam on the drivers side vs H4 on the passenger side
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Both H4 bulbs on
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And voila, night driving is better. This was taken at Midnight, full moon, and 50mph
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PostPosted: Fri May 08, 2020 6:50 pm    Post subject: Re: 1964...Diamond in the Rough Reply with quote

flyboy161 wrote:

And voila, night driving is better. This was taken at Midnight, full moon, two six packs in and 50mph


Fixed it for you! Laughing
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PostPosted: Fri May 08, 2020 6:58 pm    Post subject: Re: 1964...Diamond in the Rough Reply with quote

Hahaha! Yeah, blurry picture, but actually headed home from work
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PostPosted: Sat May 09, 2020 4:07 pm    Post subject: Re: 1964...Diamond in the Rough Reply with quote

Good work with the wheel repaint and the tires, especially with choosing the light blue for the outer sections. Did you have a spray can mixed with that L289 paint code?

I'm planning on getting my '64 Ghia Coupe back on the road after 13 years. It has sturdy Cooper 165/80 tires on it from the PO in '94. Even though they still have very good tread, I think it would be expedient to replace them due to the age Embarassed . Ghia has 4.5" and 5.5" Porsche 356 B wheels so I want to stay with a single tire brand but with different sizes. Brands are severely limited by the 165/80 front tire size. The Ghia is in much rougher condition than your Beetle, but I want to stay away from Asian tire brands because it irks me to fit them onto a vintage German car... so my choices have been limited to European brands Vredestein and Michelin. Your Firestones are an excellent 3rd alternative for what was available in the '60's or '70's, especially seeing the old-style brand "script" on the sidewalls. Back in the mid 1970's and even in the '80's I remember so many other brands in the 165/80 size which were carried by local tire stores- Semperit, Pirelli, Avon, Dunlop, Continental were ones that I bought for my various old VWs back then.
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PostPosted: Sat May 09, 2020 4:25 pm    Post subject: Re: 1964...Diamond in the Rough Reply with quote

Thanks! I use a company out of California called Paintscratch.com. They have a lot of VW color codes. L289 was one and L360 for the Sea Blue. I’m gonna be getting the exterior repainted sometime soon and wanted to repaint the heater channels myself where the carpet has disintegrated.
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I’m happy with how they turned out. The Firestones are awesome tires
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PostPosted: Thu May 28, 2020 7:04 am    Post subject: Re: 1964...Diamond in the Rough Reply with quote

I’ve been done with my replacement of the stiffener that had cracked 2 years ago. That’s covered in another thread.

https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=736269&highlight=

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PostPosted: Thu May 28, 2020 8:24 am    Post subject: Re: 1964...Diamond in the Rough Reply with quote

slightly off, but not horrible if it came out of an online pre mixed rattle can.

I know locally the autobody paint supply can color match almost any color and put it in a rattle can. if you have that option available you may be able to get a closer color match.
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PostPosted: Thu May 28, 2020 8:57 am    Post subject: Re: 1964...Diamond in the Rough Reply with quote

It’s actually dead on with the interior which was not resprayed ever. The exterior? It was repainted years ago, some variation of blue, but definitely not SeaBlue. The car will get repainted at a later date. The paint on the rest of the car is chipping, cracking. It’s time. It was easier to order the L360.

As for color matching at a FAP, I’ve considered it. O’Reilly’s claims they can do that.
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