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PostPosted: Sat Nov 22, 2014 10:50 am    Post subject: What is this - Oil pan extension? Reply with quote

Is this normal or is it some kind of oil pan extension? It looks to be hanging awfully low.

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PostPosted: Sat Nov 22, 2014 11:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's an after-market deep sump. Adds more oil for the engine to use and some even have additional filtration.
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 22, 2014 11:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ok, now the for the money round.........should I keep it or get rid of it?
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 22, 2014 1:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Get rid of it , and while you are under there get the rest of your engine tin in place.
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 22, 2014 1:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

After you remove it, buy these http://www.wolfsburgwest.com/cart/DetailsList.cfm?ID=113198031SI

As you see on your car, ALL the paper drain plate gaskets leak. I tried them all. I greased them, sealed them and they still leaked. I have these on my VW's now and no leaks at all.
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 22, 2014 2:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Gotcha. I already ordered the gaskets and a new strainer for the oil pan. But what do you mean by getting the rest of my engine tin in place? I'm a newbie here so I can use all of the advice I can get.

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PostPosted: Sat Nov 22, 2014 2:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Engine tin is an essential part of the cooling system.

Use this site http://www.vw-resource.com/engine_tin.html always good info
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 22, 2014 3:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ok, so now another big question.........how do I know what tin is missing? That page is good info, but I can't tell what I'm supposed to have underneath so I can know what is missing.

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PostPosted: Sat Nov 22, 2014 3:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I can't really tell, I would imagine your sled tin/ j tube tin. Someone correct me if I'm wrong?

Here's another good picture of the tin.
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 22, 2014 3:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Since we do not know what mismash of tin you have or do not have, it would help to post good detailed images of engine in question.

Missing #7 lower right rear sled tin.

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PostPosted: Sat Nov 22, 2014 4:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ok. I plan on putting it up on jack stands tomorrow so I'll get detailed pics of the underside of the engine and the topside as well.
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 23, 2014 2:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Eric&Barb wrote:
Since we do not know what mismash of tin you have or do not have, it would help to post good detailed images of engine in question.

Missing #7 lower right rear sled tin.

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And lower left #6 too?

Those two tabs you see poking inwards from your heat exchanger box ( big tubular looking thing) should be screwed together into the missing tin.

The tin directs the airflow around the motor and stops it from melting. It's important, yet deceptively simple looking.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 24, 2014 12:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

E&B, whats wrong with an extra 1.5 qts of oil?
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 24, 2014 12:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

-Zodiac- wrote:
I can't really tell, I would imagine your sled tin/ j tube tin. Someone correct me if I'm wrong?

Here's another good picture of the tin.
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You likely will need #5 as well. It often goes missing. There are two of them. One for each side.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 24, 2014 3:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Woreign wrote:
It's an after-market deep sump. Adds more oil for the engine to use and some even have additional filtration.

Filtration, Gracey? Nope.

c21darrel wrote:
E&B, whats wrong with an extra 1.5 qts of oil?

Nothing at all. And it may be there for a reason. But he didn't tell us anything about his engine.

Take everything you read here (or anywhere on the internet) as potentially incorrect.

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 24, 2014 4:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Max Welton wrote:


Take everything you read here (or anywhere on the internet) as potentially incorrect.

Max

Now THAT is a correct statement.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 24, 2014 4:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

iowegian wrote:
Max Welton wrote:


Take everything you read here (or anywhere on the internet) as potentially incorrect.

Max

Now THAT is a correct statement.

Maybe you meant "cooling"? Laughing

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 25, 2014 1:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Max Welton wrote:
iowegian wrote:
Max Welton wrote:


Take everything you read here (or anywhere on the internet) as potentially incorrect.

Max

Now THAT is a correct statement.

Maybe you meant "cooling"? Laughing

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We won't get into the contentious issue of whether adding an extra 1.5 quarts of oil will aid cooling or just add to the time the oil will get to its normal running temperature. Be that running hot or running at a normal temperature. Wink
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 25, 2014 7:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I got called out of town but will be back in town tomorrow. I'm planning on putting the car up on jacks and getting some detailed pictures of the engine top to bottom. That should spark some debate! Very Happy

Seroiusly, I'm hoping that you guys can help me figure out just exactly what cooling tin is missing.

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 25, 2014 7:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

From the one picture you've shown, you are missing the right-side "sled" (#2 from the diagram).

Show us more.

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