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slave1pilot Samba Member
Joined: February 22, 2010 Posts: 943 Location: Tehachapi CA
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Posted: Mon Apr 23, 2018 10:05 am Post subject: Re: My 63 body on a 59 pan Herbie project car |
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Proper?
It's not a restoration. It never will be restored (at least not by me)
The pan, body, transmission, and engine don't match.
That's what made it a perfect candidate for a Herbie. The body is correct for Herbie so the rest doesnt matter. Nobody should be pissed that I didn't return it to what it originally was.
It's a car for me to enjoy, and that's what I'm doing with it. _________________ My Photobucket for my Herbie Project - http://s1288.photobucket.com/user/TK-439/library/Herbie?sort=3&page=1
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1963 Ragtop Beetle
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1968 Beetle
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calvinater Samba Member
Joined: September 06, 2014 Posts: 3327 Location: 802 The Pointless Forrest
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Posted: Mon Apr 23, 2018 11:51 am Post subject: Re: My 63 body on a 59 pan Herbie project car |
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Good for you keep going full steam ahead _________________ "Albatross"! |
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calvinater Samba Member
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Posted: Mon Apr 23, 2018 12:03 pm Post subject: Re: My 63 body on a 59 pan Herbie project car |
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Deleted _________________ "Albatross"!
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calvinater Samba Member
Joined: September 06, 2014 Posts: 3327 Location: 802 The Pointless Forrest
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Posted: Mon Apr 23, 2018 12:04 pm Post subject: Re: My 63 body on a 59 pan Herbie project car |
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Deleted _________________ "Albatross"! |
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EA812 Samba Member
Joined: December 07, 2008 Posts: 1223 Location: North central, CT
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Posted: Mon Apr 23, 2018 1:19 pm Post subject: Re: My 63 body on a 59 pan Herbie project car |
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slave1pilot wrote: |
Proper?
It's not a restoration. It never will be restored (at least not by me)
The pan, body, transmission, and engine don't match.
That's what made it a perfect candidate for a Herbie. The body is correct for Herbie so the rest doesnt matter. Nobody should be pissed that I didn't return it to what it originally was.
It's a car for me to enjoy, and that's what I'm doing with it. |
Exactly! Who cares about pissed off people. your the one doing the work. I'm saying this is my preferred way of putting these cars together 😁 _________________ Project 66 Daily Driver http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=538786&highlight=
Herbie build
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=336044 |
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slave1pilot Samba Member
Joined: February 22, 2010 Posts: 943 Location: Tehachapi CA
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EA812 Samba Member
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slave1pilot Samba Member
Joined: February 22, 2010 Posts: 943 Location: Tehachapi CA
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Posted: Fri Apr 27, 2018 1:29 pm Post subject: Re: My 63 body on a 59 pan Herbie project car |
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I bead blasted the ragtop parts and will be getting a roller kit soon
A fresh coat of paint and these will look brand new again
_________________ My Photobucket for my Herbie Project - http://s1288.photobucket.com/user/TK-439/library/Herbie?sort=3&page=1
Currently:
1963 Ragtop Beetle
Previously:
1967 Beetle
1968 Beetle
1970 Beetle |
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finster Samba Member
Joined: May 26, 2012 Posts: 7935 Location: north o' the border
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Posted: Sat Apr 28, 2018 10:36 am Post subject: Re: My 63 body on a 59 pan Herbie project car |
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Whilst searching google for something else I came across a reference to the fact that Herbie's 53 number is a reference to Wolfgang von Trips and his split window beetle (with ragtop)that he raced in the fifties. He died in 1961 in a terrible crash at Monza and a movie about his career was proposed starring Robert Redford but was never made - so Disney used the number 53 on Herbie as a tribute.
Just thought that was an interesting nugget of knowledge...
http://www.automobil-rennsport.de/rund-um-graf-trips/ausunseremarchiv/index.html |
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slave1pilot Samba Member
Joined: February 22, 2010 Posts: 943 Location: Tehachapi CA
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Posted: Sat Apr 28, 2018 12:22 pm Post subject: Re: My 63 body on a 59 pan Herbie project car |
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Very interesting.
The only story that I've ever heard about it was that Producer Bill Walsh was a big LA Dodgers fan and chose the number 53 (and color scheme) because of Pitcher Don Drysdale
_________________ My Photobucket for my Herbie Project - http://s1288.photobucket.com/user/TK-439/library/Herbie?sort=3&page=1
Currently:
1963 Ragtop Beetle
Previously:
1967 Beetle
1968 Beetle
1970 Beetle |
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EA812 Samba Member
Joined: December 07, 2008 Posts: 1223 Location: North central, CT
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Posted: Sun Apr 29, 2018 7:57 am Post subject: Re: My 63 body on a 59 pan Herbie project car |
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slave1pilot wrote: |
Very interesting.
The only story that I've ever heard about it was that Producer Bill Walsh was a big LA Dodgers fan and chose the number 53 (and color scheme) because of Pitcher Don Drysdale
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That's the explanation they give on the DVD set. I'm not 100 percent sure but Herbie is a name Buddy Hacker used from his stand up act about his uncle who was boxer like the story he gives in the movie. _________________ Project 66 Daily Driver http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=538786&highlight=
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http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=336044 |
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EA812 Samba Member
Joined: December 07, 2008 Posts: 1223 Location: North central, CT
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Posted: Sun Apr 29, 2018 7:58 am Post subject: Re: My 63 body on a 59 pan Herbie project car |
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slave1pilot wrote: |
Very interesting.
The only story that I've ever heard about it was that Producer Bill Walsh was a big LA Dodgers fan and chose the number 53 (and color scheme) because of Pitcher Don Drysdale
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That's the explanation they give on the DVD set. I'm not 100 percent sure but Herbie is a name Buddy Hacker used from his stand up act about his uncle who was boxer like the story he gives in the movie. _________________ Project 66 Daily Driver http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=538786&highlight=
Herbie build
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=336044 |
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slave1pilot Samba Member
Joined: February 22, 2010 Posts: 943 Location: Tehachapi CA
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Posted: Tue May 01, 2018 8:15 am Post subject: Re: My 63 body on a 59 pan Herbie project car |
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Parts arrived last night
Brake line kit, engine tin, and funky muffler
This box has Chinese heads (fingers crossed), fuel line, pulley nut, oil filler, speedo cable, throttle cable tube, and a link pin rebuild kit.
_________________ My Photobucket for my Herbie Project - http://s1288.photobucket.com/user/TK-439/library/Herbie?sort=3&page=1
Currently:
1963 Ragtop Beetle
Previously:
1967 Beetle
1968 Beetle
1970 Beetle |
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slave1pilot Samba Member
Joined: February 22, 2010 Posts: 943 Location: Tehachapi CA
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Posted: Fri May 04, 2018 9:30 pm Post subject: Re: My 63 body on a 59 pan Herbie project car |
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Parts continue to arrive
Tail light housings to replace the snowflakes that were on the car when I got it (snowflakes were traded away for a 1600)
My door screws, key blank, Danish 1/4 pan section , and Danish lower A pillar sections also arrived (even though UPS claimed they were destroyed by flood or fire a few days ago)
I also dropped off the 1600 and 1835 cases to Conemac Precision Machining in Canoga Park this morning .
Rick is going to check them out along with the cranks, heads, flywheels etc so I see where I stand.
I'm having him build the 1600 shortblock while it's there as I'm a little rusty and his prices seemed reasonable .
The 1835 is just getting cleaned repaired and prepped for a later build. _________________ My Photobucket for my Herbie Project - http://s1288.photobucket.com/user/TK-439/library/Herbie?sort=3&page=1
Currently:
1963 Ragtop Beetle
Previously:
1967 Beetle
1968 Beetle
1970 Beetle |
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slave1pilot Samba Member
Joined: February 22, 2010 Posts: 943 Location: Tehachapi CA
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Posted: Mon May 14, 2018 9:13 am Post subject: Re: My 63 body on a 59 pan Herbie project car |
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Ol' Herb was put on hold
I blew the head gasket on my Honda Civic commuter car
A head gasket kit (with new head bolts) was $100 and a rebuilt head runs about $300
A low mileage JDM engine was $500 (plus tax and $50 core). These have 40k-60k miles on them , and my Civic has 200k
So, I decided to do a JDM engine swap on Saturday
Out with the old
In with the new
With intake, exhaust, accessories, etc needing swapped , it took me about 12 hours by myself
No too bad
Runs like a champ now _________________ My Photobucket for my Herbie Project - http://s1288.photobucket.com/user/TK-439/library/Herbie?sort=3&page=1
Currently:
1963 Ragtop Beetle
Previously:
1967 Beetle
1968 Beetle
1970 Beetle |
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slave1pilot Samba Member
Joined: February 22, 2010 Posts: 943 Location: Tehachapi CA
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Posted: Thu May 17, 2018 3:11 pm Post subject: Re: My 63 body on a 59 pan Herbie project car |
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I heard back from the machine shop with my repair quote
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk _________________ My Photobucket for my Herbie Project - http://s1288.photobucket.com/user/TK-439/library/Herbie?sort=3&page=1
Currently:
1963 Ragtop Beetle
Previously:
1967 Beetle
1968 Beetle
1970 Beetle |
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Moodster Samba Member
Joined: May 30, 2018 Posts: 8
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Posted: Sat Jun 02, 2018 3:35 pm Post subject: Re: My 63 body on a 59 pan Herbie project car |
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First off,I dig your build.I recently picked up a 62 I plan to start building later this year. I wanted to show you our Herbie and let you know that the guy that did the wrap is a pro and everyone compliments our RZR. He could do the same to your car for a small fraction of having it painted. If you decide to go that route, contact Up Dog Wraps in Grand Terrace. |
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slave1pilot Samba Member
Joined: February 22, 2010 Posts: 943 Location: Tehachapi CA
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Posted: Sat Jun 02, 2018 5:34 pm Post subject: Re: My 63 body on a 59 pan Herbie project car |
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Thank you. Ol' Herb is on hold right now as we sell our house, buy another, and move to another city.
fortunately, we found a house and a buyer for ours. both are supposed to close on June 30.
I thought about a wrap already. but, I think investing the money for the wrap towards a more permanent paint job would be money better spent.
If I was waffling about making it a Herbie, then I would definitely go with a wrap.
although, getting it wrapped like a bananas car would be kinda cool
_________________ My Photobucket for my Herbie Project - http://s1288.photobucket.com/user/TK-439/library/Herbie?sort=3&page=1
Currently:
1963 Ragtop Beetle
Previously:
1967 Beetle
1968 Beetle
1970 Beetle |
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slave1pilot Samba Member
Joined: February 22, 2010 Posts: 943 Location: Tehachapi CA
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Posted: Sat Jun 02, 2018 6:24 pm Post subject: Re: My 63 body on a 59 pan Herbie project car |
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I was doing some garage work today and was looking at Ol’ Herb
I noticed that his front fenders (wings) don’t match
The giveaway is the horn grills
The driver’s side is higher than the passenger
Damn aftermarket crap
_________________ My Photobucket for my Herbie Project - http://s1288.photobucket.com/user/TK-439/library/Herbie?sort=3&page=1
Currently:
1963 Ragtop Beetle
Previously:
1967 Beetle
1968 Beetle
1970 Beetle |
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slave1pilot Samba Member
Joined: February 22, 2010 Posts: 943 Location: Tehachapi CA
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Posted: Mon Jun 04, 2018 6:59 am Post subject: Re: My 63 body on a 59 pan Herbie project car |
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I thought the driver side was repop
But it looks like the passenger might be lol
I have an original driver fender that I purchased that had some cracks .I was teaching myself to weld on it
The horn grill is in the lower position like the passenger side
It’s very hard to actually measure because of the shape of the fenders
I think I’ll pull the old one off and stick the donor on and see if it “looks right”
_________________ My Photobucket for my Herbie Project - http://s1288.photobucket.com/user/TK-439/library/Herbie?sort=3&page=1
Currently:
1963 Ragtop Beetle
Previously:
1967 Beetle
1968 Beetle
1970 Beetle |
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