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slave1pilot Samba Member
Joined: February 22, 2010 Posts: 943 Location: Tehachapi CA
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Posted: Tue Sep 01, 2020 3:49 pm Post subject: Re: My 63 body on a 59 pan Herbie project car |
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I spent a few hours this afternoon working on the new shell
I removed the front and rear glass and set it aside
(You can also see that I removed the old headliner)
I also cut out the luggage tray cancer
I also went around and removed all the old weatherstripping, but it’s not worth posting pics lol
Some of my weekend was taken up with far more important things...
I’ll post more updates next time I do stuff _________________ My Photobucket for my Herbie Project - http://s1288.photobucket.com/user/TK-439/library/Herbie?sort=3&page=1
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1963 Ragtop Beetle
Previously:
1967 Beetle
1968 Beetle
1970 Beetle |
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Untraumatized Samba Member
Joined: November 20, 2020 Posts: 1 Location: Tehachapi, CA
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Posted: Fri Nov 20, 2020 4:16 pm Post subject: Re: My 63 body on a 59 pan Herbie project car |
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slave1pilot wrote: |
Hey everyone, I'm new to the site but not to Bugs in general.
I had 3 (67,68,& a 70) in the past, but that was over 15 years ago.
I had always wanted an earlier year (63) that I could convert over to a Herbie (I know,but I love that car) but never could find/afford one.
However, a couple days ago I got this from my wife as an early Christmas present:
It's been sitting for over 12 years and it's in need of lots of love.
It's a 59 pan, but the body was changed out long ago to what I believe to be a 61. That's why it's not gonna be too big of a crime to make it into a Herbie as opposed to restoring it to what it once was.
This thing screams the 80's in SoCal.
Hawaiian Rubber,shaved turn signals, 5 spoke EMPIs, Decklid stand-off kit, the works.
All that's missing is a "Local Motion" or "Bad Boy Club" sticker in the back window.
I have a long way to go, but I wanted to at least start a thread.
Wish me luck |
Were you cruising around in a Herbie replica today!? I was on my way home from work and passed by an awesome Herbie replica sitting at the stop sign on Highline Road. I did a google search for Tehachapi, CA Herbie Replica and found some of your posts so I assume that was you! Super cool man haha. |
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sportin-wood Samba Member
Joined: September 12, 2010 Posts: 2009 Location: Texas
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Posted: Fri Dec 18, 2020 7:59 am Post subject: Re: My 63 body on a 59 pan Herbie project car |
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I love the driver side seat rail modification. Can I ask how difficult that was to do? I'm thinking of doing that to my '66 project. Did you just drill out spot welds? Any info would be appreciated. Thanks! _________________ .
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"Relax, all right? My old man is a television repairman. He's got this ultimate set of tools. I can fix it." --- Jeff Spicoli |
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slave1pilot Samba Member
Joined: February 22, 2010 Posts: 943 Location: Tehachapi CA
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sportin-wood Samba Member
Joined: September 12, 2010 Posts: 2009 Location: Texas
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Posted: Sat Dec 19, 2020 6:41 pm Post subject: Re: My 63 body on a 59 pan Herbie project car |
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Thanks for pointing me in the right direction. I was thinking of welding 1 or 2 temporary support bars attached to the insides of the seat rails before I were to remove them to keep them parallel & true, but I like your method as well. _________________ .
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"Relax, all right? My old man is a television repairman. He's got this ultimate set of tools. I can fix it." --- Jeff Spicoli |
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slave1pilot Samba Member
Joined: February 22, 2010 Posts: 943 Location: Tehachapi CA
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Posted: Sun Dec 20, 2020 10:55 am Post subject: Re: My 63 body on a 59 pan Herbie project car |
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Mine worked perfectly.
I figured this way would remove any guesswork or any measurement mistakes. _________________ My Photobucket for my Herbie Project - http://s1288.photobucket.com/user/TK-439/library/Herbie?sort=3&page=1
Currently:
1963 Ragtop Beetle
Previously:
1967 Beetle
1968 Beetle
1970 Beetle |
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slave1pilot Samba Member
Joined: February 22, 2010 Posts: 943 Location: Tehachapi CA
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Posted: Mon Dec 21, 2020 2:24 pm Post subject: Re: My 63 body on a 59 pan Herbie project car |
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I cut the luggage tray out of the original ragtop body I have
It’s bigger than what I need, but I’m trimming it down
I was intimidated to start hacking it up , but the body had too many problems and the donor body is so much nicer
stay tuned... _________________ My Photobucket for my Herbie Project - http://s1288.photobucket.com/user/TK-439/library/Herbie?sort=3&page=1
Currently:
1963 Ragtop Beetle
Previously:
1967 Beetle
1968 Beetle
1970 Beetle |
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slave1pilot Samba Member
Joined: February 22, 2010 Posts: 943 Location: Tehachapi CA
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Posted: Mon Dec 28, 2020 7:26 pm Post subject: Re: My 63 body on a 59 pan Herbie project car |
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Today, my brother helped me tack in the donor panel.
He’s out from St. Louis forChristmas and wanted to help.
First, we cleaned up the hole to weld the patch panel in
Then we trimmed up the donor panel and test fit
Then Clinton tacked it in place
And finally I went around and did a few welds myself.
We stopped for the day because he’s on vacation and we need to spend time with my family while he’s here
It’s not pretty and it’s far from perfect
But it’s a start
I’ll weld some more and grind it down after he heads back home . _________________ My Photobucket for my Herbie Project - http://s1288.photobucket.com/user/TK-439/library/Herbie?sort=3&page=1
Currently:
1963 Ragtop Beetle
Previously:
1967 Beetle
1968 Beetle
1970 Beetle |
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old DKP driver Samba Member
Joined: March 30, 2005 Posts: 4145 Location: Los Gatos,Ca.
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Posted: Mon Dec 28, 2020 7:50 pm Post subject: Re: My 63 body on a 59 pan Herbie project car |
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It looks fine from here 💁🏻♂️
I always like to watch something old coming back to life.
Carry on 😣 _________________ V.W.owner since 1967 |
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slave1pilot Samba Member
Joined: February 22, 2010 Posts: 943 Location: Tehachapi CA
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Posted: Tue Dec 29, 2020 9:11 pm Post subject: Re: My 63 body on a 59 pan Herbie project car |
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And today we cut out the ragtop clip to graft into the “ new” shell
You can see in the second pic where I cut out a section of the right rear wheel well for another repair.
That’s all I need from the donor body, so the sandblasted shell has been moved out of the garage to the side of the house . _________________ My Photobucket for my Herbie Project - http://s1288.photobucket.com/user/TK-439/library/Herbie?sort=3&page=1
Currently:
1963 Ragtop Beetle
Previously:
1967 Beetle
1968 Beetle
1970 Beetle |
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slave1pilot Samba Member
Joined: February 22, 2010 Posts: 943 Location: Tehachapi CA
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Posted: Thu Dec 31, 2020 5:08 pm Post subject: Re: My 63 body on a 59 pan Herbie project car |
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Today some more parts were harvested from the old shell for some local builds
Not much left worth having , every section has issues
What doesn’t get parted out will end up in the scrap heap at the local dump. _________________ My Photobucket for my Herbie Project - http://s1288.photobucket.com/user/TK-439/library/Herbie?sort=3&page=1
Currently:
1963 Ragtop Beetle
Previously:
1967 Beetle
1968 Beetle
1970 Beetle |
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slave1pilot Samba Member
Joined: February 22, 2010 Posts: 943 Location: Tehachapi CA
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Posted: Tue Jan 05, 2021 2:22 pm Post subject: Re: My 63 body on a 59 pan Herbie project car |
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The old shell has been purchased by another local and is gone .
I started looking over the replacement shell again to see what was needed
I took a closer look at the body tag and discovered that it’s not actually a 63, but a 64.
Not a big deal as the entire car has been stripped down and is getting redone with 63 parts and a sunroof graft .
_________________ My Photobucket for my Herbie Project - http://s1288.photobucket.com/user/TK-439/library/Herbie?sort=3&page=1
Currently:
1963 Ragtop Beetle
Previously:
1967 Beetle
1968 Beetle
1970 Beetle |
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slave1pilot Samba Member
Joined: February 22, 2010 Posts: 943 Location: Tehachapi CA
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Posted: Mon Jan 11, 2021 6:09 pm Post subject: Re: My 63 body on a 59 pan Herbie project car |
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I started working on the front end of the donor body. It had been hit on the left front, so it was pushed back a little bit and crunched in
Both sides were wrinkled and the front apron is damaged badly
I was going to graft a new aftermarket front clip in
But, I didnt really want to do that. Besides , the stamping is just not right since it covers multiple years
So, I decided to cut off the apron (which will be replaced anyway)and try to save the sides
I pushed the front out by using 4x4’s and a scissor jack up against the firewall
It worked fairly well and offered a lot of control
I then started working on the passenger side with a hammer and dolly as it was less damaged
After spending a few hours today, it’s better but far from done
I added a coat of white primer to show the progress a little better
The sun started setting, so I’m done for today
Tomorrow I’ll try the driver side to bring it out somewhat evenly before I go back to the passenger side _________________ My Photobucket for my Herbie Project - http://s1288.photobucket.com/user/TK-439/library/Herbie?sort=3&page=1
Currently:
1963 Ragtop Beetle
Previously:
1967 Beetle
1968 Beetle
1970 Beetle |
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slave1pilot Samba Member
Joined: February 22, 2010 Posts: 943 Location: Tehachapi CA
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Posted: Tue Jan 12, 2021 7:40 pm Post subject: Re: My 63 body on a 59 pan Herbie project car |
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I continued working on the front end today.
I ended up attaching a come along to a tree and the other side to the front bumper brackets.
I attached the body to my pick up with a chain to help pull out the front end.
Here it is after pulling
I then continued hammering on it for a few more hours today and ended up here before the sun started setting again.
It’s not perfect and not close to done, but it is much better
I’m trying to source an apron to weld onto the front
I’ll keep at it until I’m satisfied
Or
I’ll chop the clip off and weld in the new one
Lol
Only time will tell _________________ My Photobucket for my Herbie Project - http://s1288.photobucket.com/user/TK-439/library/Herbie?sort=3&page=1
Currently:
1963 Ragtop Beetle
Previously:
1967 Beetle
1968 Beetle
1970 Beetle |
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Rome Samba Member
Joined: June 02, 2004 Posts: 9654 Location: Pearl River, NY
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Posted: Tue Jan 12, 2021 8:02 pm Post subject: Re: My 63 body on a 59 pan Herbie project car |
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Precious "back yard" repair technique!
Are you able to park the truck so that the Beetle body is still being stretched, so that you can hammer on the front side panels while the metal is under tension? That should help straighten the metal during hammer/dollying better than with the body in a "relaxed" state.
Nice going with the un-denting progress so far. IMO you've rescued the body front beyond the point of considering a new front clip. I imagine that your metal knocking/hammering noise can be heard from far away... |
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slave1pilot Samba Member
Joined: February 22, 2010 Posts: 943 Location: Tehachapi CA
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Posted: Wed Jan 13, 2021 6:24 pm Post subject: Re: My 63 body on a 59 pan Herbie project car |
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It’s already starting to shape up nicely
Three days of banging on sheet metal and now I’m here
Still more work needed, but I’m happy with the progress thus far
_________________ My Photobucket for my Herbie Project - http://s1288.photobucket.com/user/TK-439/library/Herbie?sort=3&page=1
Currently:
1963 Ragtop Beetle
Previously:
1967 Beetle
1968 Beetle
1970 Beetle |
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schwim Samba Member
Joined: May 18, 2008 Posts: 271 Location: Western NC, USA
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Posted: Wed Jan 13, 2021 6:28 pm Post subject: Re: My 63 body on a 59 pan Herbie project car |
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That's turning out fantastic! My nose is scrunched almost exactly like yours but I'm considering some creative trimming for some shock towers but had considered trying what you're doing here. I'm sure my attempt wouldn't have turned out as well. _________________ Zippy the Wonderbug's achingly slow meandering toward roadworthiness |
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jitbba Samba Member
Joined: August 20, 2013 Posts: 165 Location: San Antonio
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Posted: Wed Jan 13, 2021 6:55 pm Post subject: Re: My 63 body on a 59 pan Herbie project car |
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When is the graft coming?😁 _________________ My other ride is a Zildjian |
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slave1pilot Samba Member
Joined: February 22, 2010 Posts: 943 Location: Tehachapi CA
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Posted: Wed Jan 13, 2021 7:10 pm Post subject: Re: My 63 body on a 59 pan Herbie project car |
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I'll do the ragtop graft after I am satisfied with the front end.
so...
maybe next year? lol _________________ My Photobucket for my Herbie Project - http://s1288.photobucket.com/user/TK-439/library/Herbie?sort=3&page=1
Currently:
1963 Ragtop Beetle
Previously:
1967 Beetle
1968 Beetle
1970 Beetle |
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slave1pilot Samba Member
Joined: February 22, 2010 Posts: 943 Location: Tehachapi CA
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Posted: Sun Jan 24, 2021 6:11 pm Post subject: Re: My 63 body on a 59 pan Herbie project car |
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Small Update
The replacement apron came in and it’s a nice solid piece
It looks way better than the mangled piece I had
I test fit it and it looks really good too
Now that i have this i can continue banging out the metal and getting everything to line up before I weld it in and move on _________________ My Photobucket for my Herbie Project - http://s1288.photobucket.com/user/TK-439/library/Herbie?sort=3&page=1
Currently:
1963 Ragtop Beetle
Previously:
1967 Beetle
1968 Beetle
1970 Beetle |
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