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Zylinderkopf Samba Member
Joined: September 09, 2012 Posts: 679 Location: SE Oklahoma
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Posted: Wed Dec 17, 2014 4:46 am Post subject: Kubelwagen |
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what do you think - real or fake?
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/classifieds/detail.php?id=1729951
. _________________ 1963 Beetle
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GI Joe Samba Member
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Zylinderkopf Samba Member
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Posted: Wed Dec 17, 2014 7:16 am Post subject: |
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Tempting, isn't it? The dual port motor can't be original. The new advertiser and the lack of paperwork are certainly red flags. _________________ 1963 Beetle
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NOVA Airhead Samba Member
Joined: July 20, 2005 Posts: 5221 Location: Richmond, VA
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Posted: Wed Dec 17, 2014 7:20 am Post subject: |
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Zylinderkopf wrote: |
Tempting, isn't it? The dual port motor can't be original. The new advertiser and the lack of paperwork are certainly red flags. |
...as well as no title. _________________ Ghia Owner Emeritus |
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GI Joe Samba Member
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Deckard Samba Member
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Posted: Wed Dec 17, 2014 11:35 am Post subject: |
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It might be a movie prop... |
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citroen Samba Member
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Posted: Wed Dec 17, 2014 6:54 pm Post subject: |
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here is a real one from the Patton Museum in Ft Knox Kentucky to compare
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Zylinderkopf Samba Member
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Posted: Wed Dec 17, 2014 7:14 pm Post subject: |
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have to say...looks a lot like an original. _________________ 1963 Beetle
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Ron Domeck Samba Member
Joined: August 05, 2007 Posts: 1466 Location: louisville Ky
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Posted: Wed Dec 17, 2014 8:55 pm Post subject: |
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What I am seeing is the front skid plate is not ribbed, front fenders are narrower, speedo 68 beetle, and no hole in the rockers for the jack. Maybe a Kubelcar made in N.M. a few years back or like was said a movie prop. |
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Joe 20 Samba Member
Joined: August 27, 2005 Posts: 655 Location: Ohio
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Posted: Wed Dec 17, 2014 9:01 pm Post subject: |
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"Not sure if body is authentic" usually means it's not...still the price is attractive. Wish I was in Texas to go look at it. |
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Zylinderkopf Samba Member
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Posted: Thu Dec 18, 2014 6:19 am Post subject: |
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citroen wrote: |
here is a real one from the Patton Museum in Ft Knox Kentucky to compare |
That first picture is of a Schwimmwagen - I think _________________ 1963 Beetle
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Ron Domeck Samba Member
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Posted: Thu Dec 18, 2014 6:30 am Post subject: |
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Yes it is, they have both there. Big brother has more pics of the Kubel. |
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jjrannauro Samba Member
Joined: June 30, 2011 Posts: 217 Location: MEXICO
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Posted: Thu Dec 18, 2014 12:27 pm Post subject: |
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Hello gang! I would like to share with you some Kubel Wagen Pictures with you. Last Summer 2014 I went to Germany to visit some friends, and I wrote in the FB to the German 181 gang if I coud meet with someone while I was there. So I got a message and I was invited by Tomas Bomba to visit Deutsches Panzermuseum Munster, how cool is that?
I'm standing next to the Kubel
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mondshine Samba Member
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GI Joe Samba Member
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mondshine Samba Member
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Posted: Thu Dec 18, 2014 6:02 pm Post subject: |
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Utilitarian is the word, Joe.
When BMW and Zundapp were making sidecar motorcycles for the German military, the Zundapp was preferred because the sidecar wheel was driven.
Once in full production, 2 1/2 Kubelwagens could be built for the cost of one 2 wheel drive Zundapp. |
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GI Joe Samba Member
Joined: April 28, 2005 Posts: 2012 Location: Athens, TN
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Posted: Thu Dec 18, 2014 6:27 pm Post subject: |
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Ron Domeck wrote: |
What I am seeing is the front skid plate is not ribbed, front fenders are narrower, speedo 68 beetle, and no hole in the rockers for the jack. Maybe a Kubelcar made in N.M. a few years back or like was said a movie prop. |
Interesting points, Ron..... But compare the fenders to the one pictured from jjranauro to the one for sale...
Both appear to be the same width front fenders, with larger headlamps...
The Kubel Dennis posted has much wider fenders, but smaller headlamps....
Also, in the side shot of the one for sale, with some lighting adjustment, I indeed see the jack hole( ), just aft of the B pillar....
I agree on the speedo, certainly not original.. They did invert it to get that detail though!
My gut still leans toward real...Body at least.. Most likely on a later pan(and speedo)... The corrosion on the dash edges just seems to "real"....
Movie prop, quite likely, but ffriggin awesome nonetheless...
I'd sure love to put eyes on it and see.. _________________ '74 Thing, "Our Thing"....
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GI Joe Samba Member
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Arkansauced Samba Member
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Posted: Sat Dec 20, 2014 7:19 am Post subject: |
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So...anyone know the guy that bought it? He should start a thread. |
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citroen Samba Member
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Posted: Sat Dec 20, 2014 7:35 am Post subject: |
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I did find one more picture I had of the inside of the one in the Patton Museum
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