Alternator Type IV (4)

[porschpow]

Any special tricks to put the upper bolt back in? Seems kinda tricky

I was thinking of saturating the lower bolt with PB blaster
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-1973 Volkswagen Bus Westy (Weekender)
1.8 liter from 1.7(original)
-2011 Subaru Outback
-1986 Honda Magna

[Wildthings]

The upper one should have started life as a stud with a nut. If it still is you can just use a shallow socket and an extension to get the nut on. A bolt would be more difficult, but could be done the same way.

[BayCreamPuff]

[porschpow]

From what it looks to me, the upper bracket fastener looks to be a bolt, not a stud
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-1973 Volkswagen Bus Westy (Weekender)
1.8 liter from 1.7(original)
-2011 Subaru Outback
-1986 Honda Magna

[nathansnathan]

Something I see a lot is the bracket the alternator pivots on the square hole gets all messed up and enlarged and then doesn't function to hold the bolt from turning. What I think happens is people aren't loosening that bolt; just pry it over to tension the belt and tighten the allen bolt back down. Or else they do loosen the bottom and just never bother to tighten it. I can only think that the alternator must be moving around down there to cause this wear which is on every other engine I've gone through. You can tighten/loosen that bottom bolt from below to avoid this. Whenever they're for sale people seem to photograph them so you can't even see the state of the square hole...

[Tcash]

Type IV Alternator Cover template

http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/album_page.php?pic_id=913618

[Wildthings]

[nathansnathan]

[Tcash]

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[SGKent]

does anyone have an NOS unused Bosch paper gasket that they want to sell. I can get a price on having some made if I have a true original to work from. Part is 021 903 637
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[nathansnathan]

Cool I can sort of picture it, the 3 holes and then just riding the thin lip where the tin touches the aluminum. I'm going to try to fab something up from gasket paper. Would be a long shot finding one I would think.

[Wildthings]

[SGKent]

Thanks Mike - I just found a couple sources in Europe who indicate they have some. VW shows some in inventory as well although everyone stateside shows them as discontinued. I placed an order for 10. Will let everyone know when they come in. They will be $4.00 each plus postage when they get here. The dimensions VW gives are a bit thicker than the one that came out of my alternator back plate in pieces. The are 5.7" (sounds about right) x 5.31" (sounds about right) x .039" (sounds thicker than the original but maybe their system only goes down to 1mm or mine compressed with age, moisture, and heat)
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“Most people don’t know what they’re doing, and a lot of them are really good at it.” - George Carlin

[porschpow]

For the alternator bracket, what size is the top bolt that the bracket bolts onto the engine? 10mm
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-1973 Volkswagen Bus Westy (Weekender)
1.8 liter from 1.7(original)
-2011 Subaru Outback
-1986 Honda Magna

[nathansnathan]

[porschpow]

Ok, weird, cause on some things, I read it was 13mm, and on other's it read as a 10mm nut
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-1973 Volkswagen Bus Westy (Weekender)
1.8 liter from 1.7(original)
-2011 Subaru Outback
-1986 Honda Magna

[SGKent]

this one?

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“Most people don’t know what they’re doing, and a lot of them are really good at it.” - George Carlin

[williamM]

When you find an allen like that, we used to just snug it up and tap the side of the allen wrench with a mallet, never dented the tin again.- belt nice and tight.
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