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PostPosted: Mon Mar 19, 2007 5:10 am    Post subject: Remote oil filter mounting Reply with quote

I will be installing a new engine in my 1970 westy and this time it is tapped for full flow and i have the gene berg full flow kit. I was wondering where the best place to mount the oil filter, i was thinking maybe the rear engine brace. I was wondering if anyone had pictures of their oil filter mounting setub on their baywindow. the two oil lines gene berg gives you are only like 20" each. Thanks
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 19, 2007 9:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

i will be doing the EXACT same thing in very near future, so i am curious to see the replies.
question...can you not specify the length of the hose when you ordered it?
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 19, 2007 10:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

opposite battery. It was there when I got it, but I spent $100+ on some aircraft grade hoses. Oil cooler on the outside. That is all I know about it. Razz
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 19, 2007 10:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I mounted mine on the left side of the rear engine brace (right where it starts to curve up toward the rubber mounts) on the rear of the plate. The oil filter angles up toward the bumber bracket. Just make sure you leave enough room to be able to get the oil filter on and not hit the bumper bracket. Makes it easier to remove the engine as I don't have to remove the oil lines.....sorry don't have any pictures. The only thing is the lines that come with the Berg kit may not be quite long enough...
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 19, 2007 11:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

i mounted mine on the bottom side of the left battery tray. but plan on moving it due to a melted oil hose. if you do this make darn sure it doesn't touch the exhaust Wink lesson learned
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 20, 2007 4:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

thanks 69westy That was the loaction i was thinking of. geneberg says tap the engine brace and mount it there. did you tap the brace or put bolts all the way through with nuts on the other side?
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 20, 2007 6:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

instead of tapping the brace, i got a longer bolt for the rubber engine mount , made a 1/4" x 2" steel bar for the thing to hang from, and bolted the bar to the rubber engine mount/frame brace, under the left battery tray. wish i had a pic, its neat. mine was from berg also and 20" worked for me, but i have the obsolete Oberg filter, not the "system 1" or screw on.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 20, 2007 3:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dansvans, that sounds like a good idea i will keep that as an option. any chance you would have a picture?
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 20, 2007 8:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

no picture sorry. maybe in the next few days i can get some taken of some stuff i gotta sell. will do that at the same time.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 21, 2007 8:15 pm    Post subject: Oil Filter Mounting Location Reply with quote

I have a '69 bus and added an oil cooler and a spin on filter mount. I made a bracket using a steel and and an aluminum plate to hold the filter holder to the left side chassis. Mounted the steel to the chassis using 1/4" dia x 1" long TEK screws. They have a drill point.

I'll try to post a couple of pictures of what it looks like.

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 21, 2007 8:30 pm    Post subject: Photos of '69 Filter Mount Reply with quote

I posted a couple of pictures in the '69 Kombi Gallery

https://www.thesamba.com/vw/gallery/pix/338891.jpg

https://www.thesamba.com/vw/gallery/pix/338892.jpg

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 21, 2007 9:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i will be using the berg remote mount filter and steel tubelines rather than hoses. i will be mounting the filter housing to the mustache bar.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 22, 2007 5:58 am    Post subject: Re: Photos of '69 Filter Mount Reply with quote

art+69+71 wrote:
I posted a couple of pictures in the '69 Kombi Gallery

https://www.thesamba.com/vw/gallery/pix/338891.jpg

https://www.thesamba.com/vw/gallery/pix/338892.jpg

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that is a clean looking install. i printed off both pics for when the time comes to mount mine.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 22, 2007 3:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

looks nice , i dont know if my 20" berg steel braided lines are long enough to reach though.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 22, 2007 6:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

braided line is cheap...its those dang fittings that empty the wallet Laughing
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PostPosted: Wed May 08, 2019 6:01 am    Post subject: Re: Remote oil filter mounting Reply with quote

I'll be installing the Berg remote spin-on system soon and will take photos. Problem is....I have a new mount to made to accept the drilled bug block and it looks like the Berg pump will not fit in place of the stock oil pump without MAJOR modifications. I'll keep you posted. Building and restoring VWs since 1980 and still doing so at 76.
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PostPosted: Wed May 08, 2019 6:55 am    Post subject: Re: Remote oil filter mounting Reply with quote

the stock oiling system got me 600,000 miles in my 1971 bus without any bearing or excessive wear issues. Good luck with that mustache bar clearance and oil pump.
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PostPosted: Thu May 09, 2019 4:37 am    Post subject: Re: Remote oil filter mounting Reply with quote

^^^ I wholeheartedly agree, I never.
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PostPosted: Thu May 09, 2019 11:03 am    Post subject: Re: Remote oil filter mounting Reply with quote

It's idiotic to suggest that a properly done oil filter integration isn't an improvement on original design for these engines. Maybe if they had filters, we wouldn't have tons of the members here rebuilding the bottom end of the engines every 100k.

Type 1 bottom end: known to need rebuilt
Type 4 Bottom end: known to essentially be fine

What changed?

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PostPosted: Thu May 09, 2019 12:08 pm    Post subject: Re: Remote oil filter mounting Reply with quote

Spike0180 wrote:
It's idiotic to suggest that a properly done oil filter integration isn't an improvement on original design for these engines. Maybe if they had filters, we wouldn't have tons of the members here rebuilding the bottom end of the engines every 100k.

Type 1 bottom end: known to need rebuilt
Type 4 Bottom end: known to essentially be fine

What changed?

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Spike - go buy a stock 1971 and try to install a pump that is deeper or plumbed for an oil filter. It requires either modifing the mustache bar or the case. So given the choice of running 600,000 miles with no filter and a happy ending, or tearing the case apart to set it up for a full flow filter and a happy ending, which would YOU choose? And, reason tyoe 1 engines in a bus wear out has nothing to do with a filter. It has to do with the case getting beaten out or cracking from heat and stress.
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