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BustedBus
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 Posted: Tue Apr 02, 2024 6:38 am Post subject: Help confirming paint code |
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Valued members…..
We have a client requesting we use the paint on this bus for our double door panel van. I trust it’s not Baywindow but don’t know if it’s VW. I have looked at the technical section paint code page and just do see a good match. Any help is appreciated.
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busdaddy
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| Posted: Tue Apr 02, 2024 6:44 am Post subject: Re: Help confirming paint code |
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1971/1972 Niagara blue? 
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rsbadura
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jtauxe 
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| Posted: Tue Apr 02, 2024 9:31 am Post subject: Re: Help confirming paint code |
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If your client really likes that color in that photograph, then just color match to the photograph. Of course, once you print it the color will be different. I wonder if paint makers can match to a color on a computer screen.
Alternatively, by using the color wheel or chart on a computer, you could match the color to an RGB color or maybe even a Pantone color, and maybe the paint mixer could use that. Maybe?
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raygreenwood
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| Posted: Tue Apr 02, 2024 10:05 am Post subject: Re: Help confirming paint code |
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| jtauxe wrote: |
If your client really likes that color in that photograph, then just color match to the photograph. Of course, once you print it the color will be different. I wonder if paint makers can match to a color on a computer screen.
Alternatively, by using the color wheel or chart on a computer, you could match the color to an RGB color or maybe even a Pantone color, and maybe the paint mixer could use that. Maybe? |
Yes....they can. Virtually all decent paint jobbers and many vehicle painting houses have either a Variant of a densitometer or a spectrophotometer with software made just for vehicle paint work, usually with the L*A*B* values for the mixing colors for all of their paint lines installed.
These tools look pretty much the same as the same tools in commercial print and packaging houses and are made by the same companies....X-rite, Gretag-MacBeth, Reggiani etc.
You find the best spot of accessible, original paint that you can (usually in the trunk) ...read it...and the mixing scale computer spits out the closest L*A*B* paint match that is doable with their in-house color set.
Now, that being said, how close the match is will be directly proportional to how close the pigments of each constituent ink in the recipe is to the original paint manufacturer color set.
Some can get spot on. Others are a long way off. A fair proportion may never be right because if the new color recipe has a bit to much of a mixing color that is made up of several colors .....especially white.....the color you make may look spot on under one light source but will change colors radically under other light sources. This is called a metamerism.....a metameric color.
Huge issue with tans, Brown's and pastell paints.
On the other hand, the average human eye can only discern a difference of approximately +/- 3 Delta-E (sorry no delta symbol on my phone).....while the paint recipe spectrophotometer can see 1 Delta-E.
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skills@eurocarsplus
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| Posted: Tue Apr 02, 2024 12:32 pm Post subject: Re: Help confirming paint code |
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not a bay color at all
closest would be Turkis Green or at least looks like it based on my screen
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