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mcdonaldneal Samba Member
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Posted: Wed Feb 18, 2015 8:36 am Post subject: |
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So, to the fuel tank. I'm slightly nervous about this, I've been a bit wary of petrol ever since I tried to light a garden bonfire with it many years ago! The blast rattled the windows of houses a mile away
The sender unit in the top is 'sealed' with a waxy substance, which I cut around and levered off. Not sure if that is original, or if someone was trying to fix a leak? Maybe I can melt it back together (with a non-naked flame heat source when I'm done?
Difficult to get a good view inside, but the phone camera reveals what I would say is a little light rust. I do have a fuel tank sealant kit, and on balance it might be better to treat and seal the tank while I have it out anyway. At least then I can forget about it!
I then struggled to get the tank out, mainly because the two hoses are stuck fast. They both look pretty old, and I'm guessing both are replacements, as the small one has non standard hose clips, and the large one looks like it is sheathed in an old sock (and one of the hose clips is not vw!)
I might have to cut them off, but I'm going to make sure I have the replacements on order before I go much further! _________________ 1978 marino yellow Bay Dormobile camper
1969 signal orange Karmann Ghia convertible
1976 martini olive Bay Dormobile camper
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mcdonaldneal Samba Member
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paul_round Samba Member
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Posted: Wed Feb 18, 2015 9:47 am Post subject: |
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On that note, has anybody ever tried the reservoir in a different location. |
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c21darrel Samba Member
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Bleyseng Samba Member
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Posted: Wed Feb 18, 2015 5:00 pm Post subject: |
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Mine had the old sock on it too when I replaced it as it was cracked and when the tank was full leaked and filled the cabin with gas fumes. My wife hated it!! _________________ 70 Ghia Black convert-9/69 build date-stock w/133k 1600 SP-barn find now with a rebuilt tranny and engine
77 Westy 2.0L w/Ljet, Camper Special engine-95hp and with LSD!(sold)
76 Porsche 914 2.1L L20c, 120hp Djet (sold)
87 Syncro Westy Titan Red 2.1L 2 knob 100k miles |
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mcdonaldneal Samba Member
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Posted: Thu Feb 19, 2015 9:25 am Post subject: |
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I'm obsessed by the fuel filler hose.
Clearly I can't reuse the hose I've got, but it would be glaringly obvious to use a plain rubber hose.
I spent all day yesterday looking for some sort of cotton covered 50mm fuel hose with no success, then I had a brainwave! Why not use modern, rated fuel pipe and cover it with an actual glorified sock? I found some rib knitted tubular fabric, available in black, apparently the right size to fit over a baby's leg (according to the Amazon review!) and very reasonably priced by the metre!
I'll probably use black, rather than pink, but you get the idea! I'll see what it looks like, and post some pics. _________________ 1978 marino yellow Bay Dormobile camper
1969 signal orange Karmann Ghia convertible
1976 martini olive Bay Dormobile camper
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Posted: Thu Feb 19, 2015 10:00 am Post subject: |
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mcdonaldneal wrote: |
The sender unit in the top is 'sealed' with a waxy substance, which I cut around and levered off. Not sure if that is original, or if someone was trying to fix a leak? Maybe I can melt it back together (with a non-naked flame heat source when I'm done?
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Wow, what a hack job!
A simple gasket goes between the sender and tank. No sealant and more importantly NO HEAT!!
Sender Gasket
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mcdonaldneal Samba Member
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Posted: Fri Feb 20, 2015 9:18 am Post subject: |
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Well, looking in the trunk now I see the task that lies ahead. Bear in mind I am non- mechanical beginner at virtually everything I am attempting to do in this car!
Looking past the dirt and grime, the paintwork at least doesn't look horrendous. Peeling and rusted at the tank ledges though.
What lies beneath is totally unfamiliar territory! Thanks to the Samba I have a vague idea of what some of the things are, but I see the brake master cylinder is pretty rusty. Any suggestions as to what I should do? I haven't done a search yet, but I'm guessing the options range from doing nothing to cleaning externally to replacing the MC and brake lines. (Does that mean just the flexible lines??) happy for comments while I go and do some searching!
Clearly, I'd rather not get stuck into too many jobs at the same time, as there is a risk that they don't get finished! I suspect braking system integrity ranks pretty highly on my list of priorities!? _________________ 1978 marino yellow Bay Dormobile camper
1969 signal orange Karmann Ghia convertible
1976 martini olive Bay Dormobile camper
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Posted: Fri Feb 20, 2015 10:18 am Post subject: |
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Nah shouldn't have to replace the brake likes unless they are in bad shape, and if you do replace them it would be an easy job either way. I wouldn't mess with the MC unless it needed to be messed with - but that's just me also while you're working on it you can put one of those Volvo reservoirs on there if you choose to do so.
Great work, and great ghia! _________________ 1973 karmann ghia - current, not the last VW.
1947 Chevy stylemaster - gone, but not forgotten.
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Bleyseng Samba Member
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Posted: Fri Feb 20, 2015 10:47 am Post subject: |
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Use a brass wire brush and knock the rust off and paint the MC with Ospho rust converter. All the rest of the rust has to be sanded down to clean metal and painted with epoxy primer, primer and single stage paint. Mine looks the same but black, everything was shot with black over the orange including the wiring. Talk about a nightmare to fix the wiring as it all had to be cleaned of black paint so I could see the color coding of the wires to fix stuff.
Does your gas tank have the little port near the front for the gas vapor to the charcoal canister? It does look like a replacement tank as the filler and overflow ports don't line up that well since they are for a Beetle.
You also should have a foam seal under the tank which you can order. _________________ 70 Ghia Black convert-9/69 build date-stock w/133k 1600 SP-barn find now with a rebuilt tranny and engine
77 Westy 2.0L w/Ljet, Camper Special engine-95hp and with LSD!(sold)
76 Porsche 914 2.1L L20c, 120hp Djet (sold)
87 Syncro Westy Titan Red 2.1L 2 knob 100k miles |
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c21darrel Samba Member
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