2002 Eurovan, disabling Daytime running lights

[Abscate]

Those of you are are tuned into the fact the the Anarchists are putrefying our precipus bodily fluids with DRLs.....

1 remove four body finish screws from panel under the climate controls ( manual on my pop top weekender)

2 remove panel

3 remove relay 94

4 sell it on Samba classifieds

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[tam_shops]

I do not understand why people do not like DRLs?


I spent a ton of money getting DRLs. LOL I hadn't had a vehicle with out them for so long it didn't occur to me to turn my lights on during the day (like in the rain) and one day I was going through the border (on a miserable day) and the border guard said, "You might like to turn your lights on", which of course I did then and there. And, then researched the heck out of getting them! Voila, Projektzwo auxiliary lights http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=5...;start=340

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tam

[djkeev]

Why would you not want DRL's??

Proven safety item that many desire or must install on their units.

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[tam_shops]

I thought liking DRLs was more of a Canadian thing? I remember someone (here I think) making a joke that they always knew when the Canadians were on the Army base b/c they were required to turn out their lights, but the Canadians could not. LOL

tam

[tjet]

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DRL is not for you...

it's for some other PEOPLE can't see you..

those are half-blind, driving under influence of some sort, forgetting their eye glasses. etc etc... and the streets are full of them...

err... rather safe than sorry ... NO?

[djkeev]

[cc1865]

I would like to disable mine to help signaling the truckers. On a two lane, it might be good to have them. There might be a switch in my future.

[Xtremjeepn]

The interesting thing is that in today's world of so many cars having DRL, having them doesn't neccesarily make you more visible, but disabling them certainly makes you less visible.

I'd bet insurance companies would jump at the opportunity to NOT pay out when they figure out you actively disabled a safety feature. One that I'm sure they calculated your insurance rate on! Pretty simple to nullify your insurace based on things like this.


Seems most people want to do this out of vanity reasons, like tinted tail lights.

[greggearhead]

I can understand not wanting DRL's on. I wish more people had to THINK about turning their lights on and off. I can't tell you how many times I see someone with DRL's on, that doesn't have their lights on at night, so their taillights aren't on, etc.

Also, I agree with being able to signal other drivers with a full "OFF-ON-OFF" type light signal, vs. the "DRL-Flash to pass-DRL" which really isn't visible. It's a debate, but I prefer more control over my lights than less. Just like my transmission, etc
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[Xtremjeepn]

[IdeaNerd]

@Abscate Just a quick note on this old post to say "thanks" for posting it. (Also @kamzcab86 for chiming in with another approach on the post linked to below.)

Interesting to read all the pushback and debate on this post and this one as well. The potential insurance problem aspect is worth pointing out, but I also hadn't thought of the "can't signal truckers" aspect.

The other 2002-year vehicle we owned has "real" DRLs, as opposed to the "just turns on the headlights" version the EV has. I've been finding "the headlights always on" implementation mildly annoying in a number of different situations. One that I'm surprised nobody brought up: moving your van late at night in campgrounds -- headlights blasting on every tent and camper in the path of their beams.

Anyway... thanks all.

[hopkin]

It's been 25+ years since DRL's were required on Canadian cars. As I travel in the US I see more and more cars with headlights on (DRL, or headlights).

In the early years, the DRL's made your car more visible than the cars without, but now, in Canada, if you do not have DRL's (or your headlights on), you are virtually invisible against the other cars.
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[Abscate]

If your situational awareness is so impaired that you can't judge when to turn on your headlights, park your car for another 2 years until autonomous cars hit, then buy one. Thanks from us.
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[jjvincent]

The EV is just an always on. Pretty much like a MKIV VW where when you pull the E-Brake they go off. Other than that, they are always on. They are not low voltage or dimmed at all. I pulled my relay when I got my EV but then went the Euro switch, Euro headlights, city lights and rear fog route.

I never replaced a burned out bulb though as opposed to my Jetta that goes through at least one every two years. It's not a big deal but interesting to have one car with them and one not and see what happens over the years. Now I got different headlights with HID's and we'll see how that works out. I'm not sold on it yet.

I remember the whole DRL light thing back around 2000 on the TDI forums. It got heated because of safety vs the extra mileage you get with the headlights off. Maybe that's why I only get 52 mpg with my TDI. I probably could get 80-90 with the lights off. Plus I bought all of those $10 bulbs over 18 years and that has really taken a hit on the old bank account.

That was about as bad as not leaving your TDI running or leaving it running when parked. The starter wear of leaving it running was going to be a real money saver. I went with shutting it off all of the time. It's coming on 18 years for the original starter, I'm just waiting to go broke when it takes a dump because I used it too much.

[fkahlert]

I think my S5 has a menu item to turn off the DRL. never bothered. Also has a setting to have the automatic light setting come on "early" or "late". You can tell when the lights switch on as the nav turns from day to night view.
Once you plug in the Vag-com you can even modify the intensity level of the DRL LEDs.

Ah and also, when you don't have the lights on (but have DRL), the instrument cluster lighting gets darker as dusk sets in so you basically notice that you have no lights on.

So many choices and me simpleton just leave the light on Auto, DRLs on. I am sure i am spending gallons of gas....but likely not from the lights.
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