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norcalmike
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 Posted: Mon Jan 12, 2015 9:07 am Post subject: At what point do splits no longer get cut up? |
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I was thinking this morning, with Split prices rising faster than ever lately; at what point do they stop getting cut up for parts?
Even the wrecked panel camper I had went to someone that would eventually save it rather than me chopping it myself.
With all the repro metal available, are we reaching that point?
I have seen some pretty amazing revivals of buses that wouldnt have gotten a second chance 5-6 years ago.
Thoughts and predictions?
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| I think we may already be there. |
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thom
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How long until people stop tubbing/narrowing/raising steering boxes and all that crap?
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Eric&Barb
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As soon as all buses are completely restored and no longer driven due to being museum pieces.
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G-wood Todd
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It seems like split buses were worth more parted out than left whole. Hopefully we've reached a point where that is no longer true.
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crofty
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| Posted: Mon Jan 12, 2015 11:25 am Post subject: |
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| thom wrote: |
| How long until people stop tubbing/narrowing/raising steering boxes and all that crap? |
Uh, yeah. Good luck with that.
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Brian_1952
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| How long until people stop tubbing/narrowing/raising steering boxes and all that crap? |
Uh, yeah. Good luck with that. |
All the buses that survived I didn't get this done to them are you going to be the ones that are most valued in 20 or 30 years from now They will be saying all this bus survived the early 2000 just like we say now when they survived the 70s And 80s Cut wheel wells in crazy pain jobs
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Malokin Martin
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Funny that this is on the same page as the "15 to 23" window guy.
Not saying they're on the same level, but do 356's still get hacked up? Those things are insane pricey and I still see an ugly duckling every now and again.
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I think a '49 Merc with a carson top looks pretty legit... and it was a hack at the time... and is worth a prett penny today. IMHO... a stock '49 Merc convertable ain't as nice as the low one with carson top & other mods.
Stock is always in style... but customizations will always be a part of the scene... and not necessarly in a detrimental way.
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vwinnovator
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| Posted: Mon Jan 12, 2015 7:24 pm Post subject: Re: At what point do splits no longer get cut up? |
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| norcalmike wrote: |
I was thinking this morning, with Split prices rising faster than ever lately; at what point do they stop getting cut up for parts?
Even the wrecked panel camper I had went to someone that would eventually save it rather than me chopping it myself.
With all the repro metal available, are we reaching that point?
I have seen some pretty amazing revivals of buses that wouldnt have gotten a second chance 5-6 years ago.
Thoughts and predictions? |
I've been advertising a straight but very rust panel bus for a lousy $1500 for a while now. no takers, so I guess no one want to save it. I need the space, so I have little choice other than to cut it, part it, and as a last resort..send it to a crusher for scrap steel $$$
I'm confident I'll pull more than $1500 by cutting and parting though.... |
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| How long until people stop tubbing/narrowing/raising steering boxes and all that crap? |
How about why do the "stock" guys have this douchebag attitude? Custom guys can appreciate a well restored or preserved original car as much as a similarly executed custom.
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joshbuchan
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Cause their shit doesn't stink don't you know? they can hide behind a Keyboard running their mouth wishing they had enough fab skills to pull off a fraction of what they're bitching about  so god damn sick of reading posts like that on this site! 99% of those mods can be put back to stock just as easy as fixing the rusty shit that was hacked out! |
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| joshbuchan wrote: |
| Cause their shit doesn't stink don't you know? they can hide behind a Keyboard running their mouth wishing they had enough fab skills to pull off a fraction of what they're bitching about so god damn sick of reading posts like that on this site! 99% of those mods can be put back to stock just as easy as fixing the rusty shit that was hacked out! |
Not that he needs me to defend him but...
I think if you took the time to research Thom's "fab skills" and the long list of busses he has saved you would realize your last statement is pure BS. |
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| My plain old 65 11 window is probably 50% replacement metal at this point, and I don't feel that it's too much work for what it will be. At more that 50%, it had better be a special model, early year, or very good deal.. IMO |
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crofty
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A lot of thin skin in here today.
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On the other hand this "bus nostalgia wave" may be over with the next generation; "tuners" for example. They don't remember buses.
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I think we have a couple of decades left before the bus nostalgia runs it course. The last of the baby boomers were born in 64' and most grew up with VW's. That makes them only 50. Lots of Gen-xer's also grew up with VW's as well.
The pricing for 50's muscle cars has not decreased as yet. The same can be said for the 60's muscle cars as well. I do wonder about the model T's crowd. Not many of them left these days and wonder what impact that will have on those prices.
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| A lot of thin skin in here today. |
Just "today".......... 
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| Posted: Mon Jan 12, 2015 10:15 pm Post subject: Re: At what point do splits no longer get cut up? |
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| norcalmike wrote: |
I was thinking this morning, with Split prices rising faster than ever lately; at what point do they stop getting cut up for parts?
Even the wrecked panel camper I had went to someone that would eventually save it rather than me chopping it myself.
With all the repro metal available, are we reaching that point?
I have seen some pretty amazing revivals of buses that wouldnt have gotten a second chance 5-6 years ago.
Thoughts and predictions? |
I've been advertising a straight but very rust panel bus for a lousy $1500 for a while now. no takers, so I guess no one want to save it. I need the space, so I have little choice other than to cut it, part it, and as a last resort..send it to a crusher for scrap steel $$$
I'm confident I'll pull more than $1500 by cutting and parting though.... |
Is this the one posted for sale on Dec 31st.... with no pictures?
helpful hint, take some pics. People skip ads with no pictures.
Less than two weeks is not all that long to have a bus for sale.
Parting rusty buses does not pay much of a wage. And it is dirty work. You tend to do better selling it whole. sell one bus, it is gone. Shipping chunks of buses is work, too. If you are impatient at two weeks to sell the bus, you are NOT going to enjoy selling the parts off a crusty panelvan. |
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vwinnovator
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yes, it is. however, I first posted it for sale in September. Lots of inquiries, no one willing to travel or pay shipping.
Pics are mainly for "browsers" and tire kickers. vw ppl know what a panel bus is and the statement VERY RUSTY is self explanatory.
seriously interested ppl will email and ask for a pic and they do.
couldn't tell you how many bay windows I've cut and parted and tippled/quadrupled what my asking price whole was, but this may be my first split window to go that route. |
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