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My57Oval
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 Posted: Mon Feb 09, 2015 6:05 pm Post subject: 1957 Polar Silver with Red Interior |
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Anyone have a similar car, and have you had to replace the headliner?
What did you use for color and who was the supplier? I don't think the proper headliner color is available from anyone, at least that I have seen.
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Eric&Barb
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What colors are available?
You need a green one correct?
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My57Oval
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| Posted: Tue Feb 10, 2015 5:53 pm Post subject: |
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| Yes, the original color is some sort of green. I've never seen this color available have you? |
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Eric&Barb
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What colors do they have available?
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Trevor P
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I have that combo in my car. I went with the WCCR beige headliner.
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Eric&Barb
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Hmm, got some time to search for colors. Looks like TMI has beige, grey or ivory.
Inquire on buying an ivory headliner and get them to send you a bunch of remnants before buying the headliner. Then do a search for "professional cloth dyeing shop", and see if they could match the color you want and how much.
Or you just get dye and experiment to see if you can get close enough. Just use a good quality die, and follow the directions.
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oldsplitvw
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What makes you think the headliner is green?
13k original mile car
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Eric&Barb
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oldsplitvw
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| So the color sample shows polar silver with cloth or red leatherette. Where are you getting the green? |
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*Darren
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| oldsplitvw wrote: |
| So the color sample shows polar silver with cloth or red leatherette. Where are you getting the green? |
talking about the headliner |
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oldsplitvw
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| Posted: Wed Feb 11, 2015 7:40 pm Post subject: |
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Yes thank you. Like I said where are you getting the green (for the headliner)?
Every car I have ever seen has been beige |
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tisius
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 (grey car with) red interior with green headliner??? That spells X-mas to me bigtime 
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*Darren
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| oldsplitvw wrote: |
Yes thank you. Like I said where are you getting the green (for the headliner)?
Every car I have ever seen has been beige |
From this thread, refer to the chart and you will see headliner listed for polar silver as h121 light green.http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=563667&highlight= |
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Bruce Berman
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Perhaps I can weigh in here, and contribute some of my experience in this matter.
My car (the Polar Silver vehicle pictured in this thread) does not have a green-colored headliner. I know the VW documentation calls out light green color for the headlining material, but at least in my car, which is factory original from May of 1957, the headlining is not green, nor does it have even the faintest touch of green color. It is light gray.
My experience is such that the 1957 Polar Silver cars with the light beige leatherette interior (such as my car) have the light gray headlining. However, my experience is also that 1957 Polar Silver cars with the red leatherette interior have headlining material that is more of a very light beige color.
There are subtleties in the interior colors of these Polar Silver cars, depending upon the color combination of the upholstery. Even the color of the interior painted parts varies as a function of the color of the upholstery. Light beige leatherette upholstery cars finished in Polar Silver have the painted interior parts (shifter, e-brake handle, seat frames, steering wheel and steering column), finished in an ivory beige color, whereas a Polar Silver car with a red interior will have these parts finished in more of a lighter whitish color.
I am of the opinion that the factory documentation on matters such as these may be occasionally incorrect, which to me is somewhat surprising, knowing how thorough the Germans tend to be in such matters. Or perhaps years ago, something was lost in the translation from German to English in the color code information contained within the VW spare parts manuals, color code charts, etc.
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| Bruce, thanks for responding (I was hoping you would). I believe you picked up the key piece in that there is much variation and it could be that the literature is in fact correct (or not), but that there are so many variations that the exceptions are more the rule than the rule itself. In this case, I supplied the link as a point of reference to the op stating that they had a green headliner and there being questions as to that possibility. It would have been helpful if a photo had been provided. One final thing to note about the chart in question is that it identifies cloth interiors only. |
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My57Oval
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So, I looked a bit harder at my headliner, taking off the grab strap to get a look at the mostly un-aged area under the strap. I think it looks gray. It is gray, no?
And that would match up with the gray grab handles. Check out the un-aged section of the grab strap were the hardware mounted. Its gray.
A light green headliner would, I think look ridiculous with gray grab straps. Has anyone ever even seen a car with a light green headliner? I don't think one exists. The color combo, as someone said above would not look right with Polar Silver paint.
So if I replace my headliner, which is really bad!, I will get a light gray headliner.
Rob
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SixVolt
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I've got a '57 Polar Silver w/red interior that I'm trying to finish. The car was originally Coral Red. The PO painted it Polar Silver. He did a nice job on the paint, although I wish it was still Coral Red. I just bought a red two tone budget kit for the interior. I'm a stock guy, but since the color was already changed, I'm making a few, albeit limitied, stock deviations.
Bill Webner at Der Wagonwerks in Elyria Ohio did my seats and headliner. Its a grey mohair style. He did an unbelievable job on this beetle. First class work. A true professional who gave me a very fair price.
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My57Oval
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Very nice! Do you know or can you get the formula that was used for the paint?
I'm searching for a formula for PS. I've got to scour the forums some more.
Paintsratch.com couldn't come up with one which surprised me. Anyway, your car looks awesome. Do you know what month it was built? Did you get a birth certificate for it?
Happy 6 volting!
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SixVolt
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I have the original paint cans, but no printed formula. I think Sherwin Williams automotive has the code. We have a SW shop in Cleveland that can color match anything.
No birth certificate. If the PO had kept it Coral Red I would have been "all in". To his credit, he picked a stock color and did a real great job on the paint. He's a good guy, so I have no complaints. The color is growing on me. Its a sharpe car. I'm putting a period correct 36Hp in it and as you'd expect, its staying 6V.
Sometimes before you drive them you have to tow them. 
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